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post #2291 of 20566 (permalink) Old 05-13-2012, 07:36 PM
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I don't like the "I Quit" match between Orton and Cena. It's a lot like Miz/Cena at OTL. Orton tortures the living hell out of Cena but then SuperCena goes in "angry" mode and beats him with the STF. I like their SummerSlam 07 match, though.

I'm not great at rating matches but I saw Wrestlemania 21 in it's entirety a couple of days ago and so I figured I might as well leave the ratings here:

Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio ***1/2
Money in the Bank ****
Undertaker vs Randy Orton ****
Trish Stratus vs Christy Hemme **
Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels ****1/4
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JBL vs John Cena **1/2
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Miz/Cena suffers from being a copy of Orton/Cena... except Miz had Riley as well.

But Orton/Cena, Orton gave a fucking amazing performance... much better than Miz's might I add. Orton just looked so sinister and evil, showing absolutely no remorse and just constantly beating down Cena. I also think it did a great job in telling the story of just how resilient Cena is and how he won't quit no matter how much pain he's in.

Now whether that is a good thing or not is subjective, but they portrayed that story perfectly. Yeah the ending sucked with Cena going into superman mode and brushing Orton aside like nothing once he got the upper hand, but it was quite an interesting match-up.

However I was only going based off of Cal's post when posting that. Cena/Orton SS07 I remember loving. Here's my rating for it, though I need to re-watch it as it's been awhile:

Cena/Orton Summerslam: ****1/4

And it's above the BP match as well, so I'd say Orton/Cena's top 2 matches for me are the Summerslam match, followed by BP. Both are amazing matches imo, but for very different reasons.

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Cena vs Orton has been done to death. I do like the No Way Out match though. A good solid heel finish, of course it sticks in my craw that they didn't just have the match at WM with a clean finish. A triple threat match aint what anyone wanted to see.
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Made me at one of the Royal Rumble matches where Orton and Cena attempted an "epic" stare down and the fans didn't give a flying fuck .

Hate the Orton/Cena SS 07 match. Their 09 one was even worse.
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Just watching Survivor Series 01 for the hell of it. Regal Vs Tajiri is an awesome little 5 minute match. Stiff kicks, stiff elbows, some blood, and cool counters. Immunity Battle Royal is pretty fun too. Kidman takes one hell of a fall away slam from Bradshaw to get eliminated. Sucks that Test one, can't believe that they tried again and again and again to push that guy. Albert should have won instead.
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Whay do you guys think on the comment saying that the NWO '01 is one of the best WWE PPV of all time? I'm just watching the 2001 year and I don't know what to expect of this event.

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I was a fan of the Orton/Cena series. All the matches were different. Iirc the SummerSlam 2009 one being overbooked like crazy, but I enjoyed that. The worst match between the two was in Hell in a Cell, I consider it the worst HIAC match of all time. Haven't seen the Iron man. The NWO, SummerSlam matches were great too.
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The Hell in a cell match was actually their best match in that feud outside of that I quit which I really liked. Their Summerslam and Ironman matches were pieces of shit though.

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Started up my Raw project again after over 7-8-9 months of delay. Took a while to get back into things because of the big file hosts going down and the MM section basically turning to shit so I turned to PB and oddly enough they had the complete '98 year there. Watching every Raw/SD! from '98 - '05 as well as PPVs to fill what I missed. Probably gonna recap the last few years as well. Once I'm done I'm gonna do '93-'97 since it's too late to go back now.

Anyways, just got to WM14. Never did ratings on RR or IYH: NWO, but will later.

Wrestlemania 14 - **1/2

15 Team Battle Royal - **
-Nothing bad, just not that great. Cool to see the Road Warriors come back and take this BR though.

Taka Michinoku vs. Aguila (LHW Title) - *1/2
-Aguila was extremely botchy in this match. Nothing felt natural. He looked rushed and his strikes were horrible. They looked like baby taps. Nothing more than a poorly execute spotfest.

HHH vs. Owen Hart(European Title) - ***
-The finish was very well executed with Chyna blinding Slaughter and low blowing Owen. THIS is how you book a heel faction.

Mero/Sable vs. Goldust/Luna - **1/4
-No one can deny how prominent the Mero/Sable saga was during this time and surprisingly enough Sable actually MADE this match for me. She did light years better than I thought she would and after being delayed the opportunity to get in there and kick some Luna ass she finally got it and went HAM. Thought she'd be ready to end it after the powerbomb, but went for a TKO. Well done. Hats of to Sable.

The Rock vs. Ken Shamrock (IC title) - *1/2
-It's not that it was a bad match, it's the fact it didn't even last 5 minutes and then Shamrock's win is voided by a technicality. The best thing to come from all this is Rock's excommunication from The Nation by Farooq.

Cactus Jack/Chainsaw Charlie vs. New Age Outlaws (Dumpster Match/Tag titles) - **1/4
-Rather slow and uneventful until the later parts. Thought the finish was pretty unorthodox, but I still liked it.

Undertaker vs. Kane - **3/4
-LOVED the build in this feud, but the match failed to live up to the hype. The latter half was where things picked up with the great dive to the outside by Taker and side step by Kane sending Taker through the table. Kane no sold like hell though. I understand he was booked to be untouchable in this match, which is why he was on offense for 90% of it, but there was a leg drop by Taker after a tombstone that Kane just took. Didn't even flinch. Nothing that would ruin the match though. Thought the three tombstone finish to put Kane away was kind of anti-climatic, but it made sense.

Stone Cold Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels (WWE Title) - ***3/4
-Well paced, intense brawling executed spectacularly. Match started off with a quick and ruthless pace for roughly 10 minutes before it slowed down. I love when guys come out swinging with all they have. Things slowed down, HBK went on the offensive, strategically working the left leg. Austin got in bits of offense here and there, but Shawn had him until he tuned up the band. Austin reversed the superkick, Shawn reversed the stunner, Austin reversed another superkick, and then finally STUNNER! 1-2-3 - Attitude Era bEG1ns!!

Average card, but ended on a high note. Still a fun PPV.

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I absolutely LOVED the Edge-Cena series from that year, including the TLC match. On the other hand, can't think of a singles series Orton has been involved with against anyone that I liked.

Lastly, is it speaking ill of the dead to say Test shouldn't have won that match @ SS? I know it's not doing so to say Albert/Tensai should not have won anything, & should not be in televised matches now.
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