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Old 05-09-2012, 12:29 AM   #2141 (permalink)
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I don't even look at matches like that at all though. I don't have a set formula for rating a match at all. I would say it's a majority personal enjoyment but I find myself enjoying all different types of matches. If a match is 20 minutes long and at the end I can say to myself, "That was awesome" the match is going to get a really high rating regardless of any other flaws it may have. I can't really think of any example either where I can say that a match didn't have any flaws but I just didn't like it. I'm sure there has been at least one but I generally believe that if I don't enjoy a match it's because the match just isn't good.

Some of my favorite matches that I've given really high ratings to all have different reasons why they got the rating. I consider Triple H/Stone Cold 3 Stages of Hell a 5* match and the main reason on that is because they seemed to really hate each other and the workrate is incredible. One of my other favorite matches is the CZW vs. ROH Cage of Death and I gave that match 5* because the story that was told has enough substance to be used to write a movie. I don't think I enjoyed one match more than the other but those matches have very little in common other than my love for them.
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Old 05-09-2012, 12:36 AM   #2142 (permalink)
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Anyone got any thoughts on the Royal Rumble of '99? I have the whole Rumble Anthlogy set with the PPV's from 88 to 07 (when the DVD set came out), and rewatched it again for the first time in a couple of years and my reviews of it went down and hard. The matches were lackluster, even for Attitude Era standards, the Rock and Mick Foley I Quit match was actually alright and a lot better than the Rumble itself in my opinion and the only watchable match on the card. All the others I went and fast forwarded a bit cause I just couldn't sit through it.

The Royal Rumble itself wasn't all that good either, previous ones were a lot better, it didn't live up to the hype. All the match was around the Vince / Austin power struggle and it made everyone else seem unimportant and everyone knew it was going to be one of them two winning even with the bounty on Austin's head. Even when they went backstage to Austin getting beaten up during the match, it made the rest of the action in the ring seem like crap and no one should care about them.
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The 1999 Royal Rumble is the worst Rumble match that I can ever remember seeing. It's terribleness is defined when one guy (I honestly can't remember who) comes out to the ring but there is nobody else there. Now instead of grabbing a microphone or engaging the crowd in some other way the guy just fucking stood there and did nothing until the next guy came out.
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The 1999 Royal Rumble is the worst Rumble match that I can ever remember seeing. It's terribleness is defined when one guy (I honestly can't remember who) comes out to the ring but there is nobody else there. Now instead of grabbing a microphone or engaging the crowd in some other way the guy just fucking stood there and did nothing until the next guy came out.
Not to mention it was full of random jobbers, (most Rumble's are but more than the usual) because most of the mid card was too busy beating Austin up in the bathroom or wherever it was, I remember seeing some huge Eric Cartman South Park guy, Gulga I think his name was, Gilberg, Blue Menie, Dan Severn, Al Snow, Kurrgan, Godfather and not to forget Chyna being in there for a total of maybe two minutes. Kane dominating the first half of the Rumble until he eliminated himself? (why just why?)
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I have a bit of a dilemma, I can only buy one dvd due to funds so should I buy the new Edge DVD or The Best off Raw & Smackdown 2011 DVD?
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I enquired to SilverVision about the WCW Clash DVD, I was sent this response:

The last 3 preorder titles have been temporarily removed from sale by the WWE, as yet we have no information as to when they will be reinstated.

I hope its still out over here in May, last resort is Region 1...

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Watched Michaels/Taker from Ground Zero and it's clear that Michaels was a roided, coked up prick who completely overselled throughout that match. I know for a fact if Cena was doing that today, there would be twice the amount of hate that he gets now. He even spat into the face of a person in the crowd, that was pretty low. I'm just glad he made a comeback in 02, because apart from the Hogan match, he was a completely different person. If only the IWC existed back the aye?

P.S I didn't really enjoy the Ground Zero match, Taker was fantastic in it but Michaels bugged me throughout, he looked completely off it.
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Watched Michaels/Taker from Ground Zero and it's clear that Michaels was a roided, coked up prick who completely overselled throughout that match. I know for a fact if Cena was doing that today, there would be twice the amount of hate that he gets now. He even spat into the face of a person in the crowd, that was pretty low. I'm just glad he made a comeback in 02, because apart from the Hogan match, he was a completely different person. If only the IWC existed back the aye?

P.S I didn't really enjoy the Ground Zero match, Taker was fantastic in it but Michaels bugged me throughout, he looked completely off it.


I just love Shawn's entrance here,he spits on the fans and then he slapped the fans hands like a face lol.
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Spitting in the crowd though, I don't understand that, just seems wrong. Nevertheless, I did enjoy him back then just not his attitude.
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Wrestlemania 28

So before i start, I didnt see this ppv at all until it came out on dvd. I heard some good stuff about this ppv, but I have to say that some of the matches surprised the hell out of me. One of the best Wrestlemania's I have ever seen. Only topped by WM 19, 17, 24, 26, 21.

1. Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan (World Heavyweight Championship)
18 seconds. That is all. They should have given these guys 15-20 minutes, and we could have gotten a classic like the one that we got a month later at Extreme Rules. If this match had gotten the time like at Extreme Rules, then WM 28 really would have been the greatest Wrestlemania of all time. Anyways, Sheamus wins and becomes the new world heavyweight champion.
match rating: DUD

2. Randy Orton vs Kane
The crowd was still chanting DB, and YES chants, but these two guys quickly turned their attention to the action that was going on in the ring. Some good counters, and the action never slows down. Great ending as well with the giant chokeslam of the top rope.
match rating: ***1/4

3. Big Show vs Cody Rhodes
Short match, but it did no harm. Its only like 5 minutes long, and in those 5 minutes we see a couple of nice moves, especially a spear to the nuts of Cody Rhodes. At the end a new intercontinental champion is crowned, and Big Show makes history.
match rating: 3/4*

4. Divas tag match
Not too bad. There is a nice move by kelly Kelly of the top rope, and the other chick didnt do too bad. Standard divas tag match though, other then the nice move by Kelly.
match rating: 1/2*

5. Undertaker vs Triple H (Hell in a Cell)
Special Referee: Shawn Michaels
Holy hell, this match is awesome. I personally love the HHH/Taker series more then the Taker/HBK series. I have their WM 27 match at around ****3/4. I didnt think this match could get any better, but it did. Chairs, steel steps, the cell, and a sledgehammer were all used. There is even some blood in this one.

The bruises on the back of Undertaker were sick from all the chair shots he took. He paid HHH back just as bad though when he beat the hell out of him with a steel chair as well. The near falls were great, especially the one with the Super Kick and the Pedigree.

What I really loved was when at one point Undertaker was on the floor, and Triple H puts the sledgehammer over Undertaker's skull, then he is about to kill Undertaker by smashing his skull to pieces. I loved it because HHH was saying during the build up that he knew what he had to do this time, and he was really going to kill Undertaker, just so he could win the match.

The final thing that has to be talked about is the story in the match. They told an amazing story. All 3 men. You could hear them telling the other to quit, and telling Shawn to end it. Shawn's acting was pretty great as well.

I also loved how the match ends. Undertaker finally gets his victory over Triple H. Last year he won, but couldnt even get out of the ring because HHH killed him so bad. This year, Undertaker walks out of the ring as the victor on his own two feet.

After the match all 3 men walk out of the ring together and the crowd cheers them on. Great moment that I will never forget. My only problem with this match is the end of an era thing they were talking about. How is this the end of an era, when Undertaker will be back next year, and Triple H is already back.
match rating: *****

6. Chris Jericho vs CM Punk (WWE Champion)
Ok, this match surprised me like no tomorow. People around here have it usually around 4 stars, so I eas expecting something good, but not anything this good. The match is stiff, and there is a lot of great action, near falls, and a hot crowd. I swear, I thought the match would end so many times. I can just imagine how the crowd felt watching this live. It is honestly one of my favorite matches that has happened at Wrestlemania. I just love it that much.
match rating: ****1/2

7. 12 man tag team match
Decent match. I thought it would be better though. The first half of the match is kidn of slow, but it picks up a lot in the last few minutes of the match. Funny how the Miz is still undefeated at Wresltemania, 3-0.
match rating: **1/2

8. The Rock vs John Cena
Great main event. not a 4 or 5 star classic, but its still a great match. I thought they would do this match like Rock/Hogan, but they went in an opposite way. They gave them 30 minutes to put on a great match. It was great seeing the Rock back in a match, and plus this was at a Wrestlemania.

The crowd is great, and the action is good. I really fell for it at the end when Cena did the second AA on the Rock after the failed Crossbody of the top rope. At the end the Rock wins the match and the crowd goes crazy. Great ending to Wrestlemania, and the Rock winning was the right choice in my opinion. It sent the fans home happy.
match rating: ***1/2

So overall, this is a great ppv. HHH/Taker, Jericho/Punk, Rock/Cena, Orton/Kane were all to great match. Much better then Wrestlemania 27 in my opinion.
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