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Old 05-06-2012, 05:12 PM   #2071 (permalink)
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Just finished watching the 1st disc of the Viva La Raza Eddie set, some really great matches on it from WCW, the only thing I was disappointed about was that the Mysterio match was the one from Nitro a few weeks after Halloween Havoc and not the Havoc match itself.

My favourite match from the disc was probably the one against Shinjiro Otani from Starrcade 95, I'd never seen it before and it was a really great little match.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:22 PM   #2072 (permalink)
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Eddie's first set already has the HH match with Rey on it, so it was nice that they didn't do a repeat, especially since that match is already on a bunch of sets .
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:37 PM   #2073 (permalink)
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Survivor Series 2011

United States Championship: Dolph Ziggler vs. John Morrison - ***1/4

Divas Championship: Beth Phoenix vs. Eve - **

Traditional 5-on-5 Survivor Series Elimination Match: Team Orton vs. Team Barrett - ***

World Heavyweight Championship: Mark Henry vs. The Big Show - **3/4

WWE Championship: Alberto Del Rio vs. CM Punk - ****

The Rock & John Cena vs. Awesome Truth - **3/4


This was a solid event. Ziggler/Morrison was a good opener, Beth/Eve had an awesome finish, 5-on-5 was killed by the awkwardness of Sin Cara's injury and never quite recovered, but was still watchable enough. I loved Kofi's ring attire, which was his logo but with the color and design of the stay puft marshmallow man. A nice NY reference.

Henry/Big Show is not as good as the Vengeance match, but still one of the better big man matches. Considering that the two competitors have a combined age of 80 years and combined weight of almost 900 pounds, it's still an impressive achievement. Big Show's top rope elbow is amazing. Had this been a nodq match, the match could have continued after the lowblow, attempt at the chair shot, knockout, and Show's retribution, and we might had a good finish to a blowoff.

I choose to look at this match as the last in the series. After all, it began with chair on the foot, and ended that way. That their last match was the 5 1/2 minute chairs match, that ended flatly with a KO, was a huge disappointment.

Del Rio/Punk was just a flawless match. There's really nothing negative to comment on. No silly stips, no reliance on interference. I love how they just went out and wrestled. It was very back and forth, and the match had a great finishing stretch. It was awesome how Punk hit a bit move, went for a pin, and when Del Rio kicked out, Punk caught him in the anaconda vice. It was just a smart, entertaining match with a great end. Was it just me, or was Del Rio working on both of Punk's arms, or did I just lose track? Because there was a nice spot when Punk was going for the bulldog, but then switched sides, and I thought it might have been because he didn't want to do it with the injured arm, but I wasn't sure which that was.

I never realized that in the buildup, Punk was saying that he wanted to win the WWE Title to bring back its prestige. In the buildup and the extra on the DVD, he actually says it's been passed around like a hot potato, he's going to restore its meaning, and he's going to be a fighting champion.

I guess they had a long run planned, since Punk has defended against ADR, Miz and ADR in the TLC match, Ziggler, Elimination Chamber, Jericho twice, Henry thrice, and he's been champion since November. Mission accomplished, because the title feels important, and it'll feel really important when someone beats him.

Rock/Cena vs. Awesome Truth is just...bland. I know it was special, but to me, it just didn't feel special. There was nothing about the match other than who Cena's partner was that felt at all important. Rock looks and performs amazingly. I like how in the first minute or so, they let him hit huge armdrags, that funny pin, etc, to really establish that there is no rust. And there is none. He could have been wrestling this entire time.

But the match is so standard. Cena gets beat down forever, Rock gets the hot tag, fights off Miz, spinebuster, people's elbow, done. Aside from the return of The Rock, the quality of this match was for RAW. They could have done this at No Way Out or hell, the RAW before WM. Not the main event of Survivor Series.


Still, a solid event with no bad matches to speak of.
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I'll watch it one day lol. Need to concentrate on matches from 2000-2009 for now though (and non WWF/E for the most part) . I don't want to leave it too late and have to watch millions of matches in a month to get a top 100 list together and be disappointed with it like with WCW.

Watched MITB 2001 the other day. Still love the event. SD MITB is great, Raw MITB isn't that good, but its a car crash type match that I don't want to turn away from lol. Plus lots of ladders keep breaking and people botch so it really IS like a car crash lol. Henry/Show is super fun. Orton/Christian is good, but one of their weaker matches (which says a lot about their series lol). Punk/Cena is still tremendous.
That mindfucked me lol.

I remember really marking for Miz's fake knee injury and him hobbling out afterwards. Because as soon as it happened and he got carried out I thought shit, what if he was booked to win it?
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Miz hobbling out and climbing the ladder made me feel just like I did when Cena retuned at the 08 RR; disappointed. Luckily Miz didn't win. Unfortunately Cena did .

Also, I'm still amazed at most of the winners at MITB. Daniel Bryan won the SD MITB, Christian won the WHC and Punk won the WWE Title . Plus Henry solidified himself as a monster heel. Just a shame Del Rio won the Raw MITB, though looking back at who was in it... there weren't many good choices. Rey would have been my personal pick but I don't think he SHOULD have won it even if I would have preferred him over Del Rio like, 100000000 times.
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I don't see MITB as worthy of it so own PPV; Make it a yearly match at some event, WM or not, but not its own PPV.
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I do agree it should be at an event and not one itself but last year's was well worth having it's own show.
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I do agree it should be at an event and not one itself but last year's was well worth having it's own show.
Then we "break even"... Since I don't feel it worthy of its own show, I can't recall having ever ordered one.
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I do agree it should be at an event and not one itself but last year's was well worth having it's own show.
If I were WWE, I would just book one Money in the Bank Ladder match at the TLC PPV instead of basing a PPV around Money in the Bank Ladder match. The match would fit with the TLC theme. WWE only needs one ladder match PPV theme instead of two.
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If I were WWE, I would just book one Money in the Bank Ladder match at the TLC PPV instead of basing a PPV around Money in the Bank Ladder match. The match would fit with the TLC theme. WWE only needs one ladder match PPV theme instead of two.
Maybe I could get with that... But I feel it's kind of like "Night Of Champions", where not all matches are necessarily Title matches & not all Titles are on the line... It seems they save the T/L/C matches at that PPV for the Titles, so I'd feel it was a bit wasting to also have a Title shot on the line in such a match.
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