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Old 03-02-2013, 03:44 PM   #20541 (permalink)
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That's what makes it even worse. Fucking impossible to cover everything. haha
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Old 03-02-2013, 03:46 PM   #20542 (permalink)
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Got the chance to watch some of the set last night:

First of i really like the cover , it's really cool so is the back picture of the case. The introduction of the film is just epic, won't spoil it for you. Bret gives his insight & thought before each match & it's incredible to listen to him. First 3 matches against Dynamite, Sawyer & Burke are ok but Bret is still green on them & the stampede matches are clipped.

The real gem starts with Bret vs Dynamite WWF match. Before the match they show incredible footages of dynamite wrestling and there is a shot where Dynamite superplex Savage of the 3rd ropes & i would die to see the full match. The match between the 2 is magnoficant execution & timing wise. It's surreal that match was 1985. I don't know but definitely top 10 WWF matches in the 80's.

Next you have Hart Foundation vs Islanders which is a lot of fun. Hart Foundation here at thier best in playing the heels & the 2 teams just have tons of fun there. So glad this match made it to the dvd.

Bret vs Andre was cool for the rarity & story behind it& cool to see Bret drop kicks Andre !

Bret vs Perfect : well it's good , it has great start, drugs little bit in the middle & super hot ending. I kind liked thier wrestling challenge match over this.

Next you have Hart Foundation vs Twin Towers & it was a blast to watch it. Great back & forth action & Bret takes a hell of a beating. Propably my favorite match last night to watch.
Bret vs Tiger Mask 2 : i watched the last few minutes of it previously & i wasn't satisfied with this match, here let's see where it stands with the full match shown. You'll surprised the strong following Bret has in Japan at that time. Slow start to the match with basic holds & you get cool spots between them. Sometimes you get the feeling Misawa can't excell the high fly legend manuevers of the original Tiger Mask. In the middle of the match Bret turns heel, the match picks up with Bret awesome control segment. Fans eat everything in the match from there forward. Out of the blue on a high gear bells rings & times expired. 5 more minutes & you get a classic. They were just starting & i ended wanting more from these 2..

Great comments by Bret on Flair , won't spoil it for you ;-)

Bret vs Flair : best match the 2 ever had together. Totally different & more intense from any of thier matches. I love never die performance by Bret here. This match is a treat.

Bret interviews between the matches are gold.

Bret vs Taker: it's truely amazing how Bret was capable of putting fast paced , non stop action match when Taker was on his slow zombie character! On of the facinating thing about Bret is how he can make the crowd emotionaly invested in his matches. Here when you hear the crowd cheering you really sense that they are cheering from thier hearts.

Bret vs Bam Bam: first time i see it. This match is better than the match from Spain, however a lot of similarties. KTOR is thier best match together. I kind have wished to have MSG match against Dibiase or a match against Martel or KOTR Razor match instead. One of the nice experiences & pleasures we get from watching this & the previous Bret dvd's is the chance to see matches taking place in different countries with different arenas & crowds. We got matches from US, Canada, UK, Japan, Italy, Spian and South Africa.
Let me tell you again guys the stories & comments Bret say before the matches are really something that add big time to the dvd. Even though we read a lot of Bret interviews& his lengthy book there still something new to know about him on the dvd..

Bret vs Diesel: i think Gorrilla summed the match in his quote " what a match !! One of the greatest title defenses i've seen in the history of WWF, also Savage's statement at the end" i've seen them come & go, The Hitman is the greatest of all time !!! Thats the feeling & thought you get by the end of the match. It's an unbelievable carry job by Bret, considering Diesel was still green at that time. I kept thinking that Bret is pure awesome as always he offers something different in each time & he keeps bringing new moves & stories each time.

Bret vs Owen: very cool hard hitting match. I much preferred this match to the 2nd Bret / Owen match in Bret's 1st dvd. This match is totaly different than all Bret vs Owen confrontations. As they add nice small touches with great psychology.

Bret vs Laffitte: i was always very interested to know Bret thoughts & how does he rank this match , as it's one of my favorite matches of Bret's & it's rarely mentioned. Very interesting remarks by Bret on Laffitte & the match, that makes you very popped to see the match. The match itself is wonderful mixture of risk taking flying moves , stiff action & great counters. Bret took Laffitte that never really stand or had anything memorable & put him in one of the best matches any wrestler dream of having.

Bret vs Austin: I've seen this once long time ago & barely remember anything from it. Awesome pre match promos by Austin & Bret that never saw before. The arena & crowd in South Africa are great & you have JR & Owen in commentary!!! The match totaly exceeded all my expectations & is an incredible clinic. You will see moves that the 2 never used in any of thier matches. I wonder why the 2 would put such classic in a house show in international tour!!! They never held back anything & put a show like it was WM !!!! 5 stars match.

Bret vs Patriot : the atmosphere of the arena is amazing. Bret has an epic entrance here. Crowd are so into the match & Bret carry Patriot to match doesn't have the right to be this good. Bret's execution of the moves are off the page & the near falls were sweet. Overall great heel performance by Bret & a nice addition to the dvd from his legendary 1997 run.

Bret vs Booker: i always thought Bret chose the wrong match but i was mistaken as it seemed Bret remember the 2 matches & wanted to show this match because he wrestled injured. At first i wasn't excited for the match but it turned to be a really great match. US belt really looks awesome on Bret. I loved the whole Nitro atmosphere& the fans were into the match all the way. Booker's offense looked great & the 2 had great chemistry together. I appreciated the much more after knowing Bret's condition going into the match.

Bret vs Sting : Always thought Bret & Sting never reached thier full potential & this match is the same. It seemed the match cut short as with more time, it was shaping to be a good match. Too bad Bret's WCW theme is edited as i love it !!!

Blu Ray exclusives:

Bret vs Yoko: those 2 are perfect match & dancing partners together. Whether Yoko is on offense & Bret's selling or the other way around. Always love Bret strikes to Yoko, they look great. Nice lengthy match here..

Bret & Bulldog vs Owen & Anvil: so much better than the Raw match. Great mixture of comedy, tag team wrestling & intensity.

Bret vs Hakushi: that is the match i was most looking for in the set. The 2 brings thier A game here. Hakushi pulls crazy innovative moves & Bre's timing & adopting to Hakushi's style is unbelievable..

Bret vs Vader: Awesome stories & comment by Bret before the match. The match is short but you have super hot crowd & it's always a treat to see Bret in 1997 character.


Overall this Blu Ray is arguabely top 5 releases ever by WWE. Full of great matches that showcase different wrrstlers through different years. It's inctrdible the variety & style of matches here. After watching this i got to say that for me Bret is the best pro wrestler ever stepped in a wrestling ring!
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Wrestlemania X9

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels


So I used to be somebody who didn't think this match was that good. I changed my mind. It is. For whatever reason, I've always seemed to flip flop with my opinion on this thing. I would watch it and just think it was OK or I would watch it and think it was better than OK. Now? Brilliant. The Jericho kip up spot with HBK kipping up right behind him was GOAT. I wonder if this will indeed turn out to be the show stealer for this Mania.

****1/2

Triple H(c) vs. Booker T

Well fuck. I haven't watched this match in years and my memory was of it being just OK. Talk about a nice surprise. This was awesome and by far the best Booker T match I've ever seen. Wow. DAT INDIAN DEATHLOCK . DAT TOP ROPE LEG JUMP THING . Why is this not talked about more? Talk about flying under the radar. I guess when you stack it up against the other matches on the same card, it's probably the one with the least hype. Even still, this was great and Booker's selling of the leg was just fantastic.

****

Vince McMahon vs. Hulk Hogan

If there was one word I would use to describe this match it would be MCMAHON. I'm kidding lol. It would be fun. Vince acting like a maniac is always great to watch. This was a fight 20 years in the making, the crowd were hot and the action was entertaining as hell. We also get the iconic bloody Vince image from this match.



The personification of evil right there and it's just brilliant. I can't believe that he did a leg drop off a ladder through a table. Mad props to both of them for doing that spot at their age.

***3/4

I'll be watching the rest of the card tomorrow. I just wanted to start with Jericho/HBK so I did. Aiming to watch one full Mania every weekend until we get to the event itself at Metlife in a couple of weeks.
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Wrestlemania X9

Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels


So I used to be somebody who didn't think this match was that good. I changed my mind. It is. For whatever reason, I've always seemed to flip flop with my opinion on this thing. I would watch it and just think it was OK or I would watch it and think it was better than OK. Now? Brilliant. The Jericho kip up spot with HBK kipping up right behind him was GOAT. I wonder if this will indeed turn out to be the show stealer for this Mania.

****1/2


The other very impressive thing about the HBK/Jericho WM19 match is that is the first match HBK and Jericho EVER touched. Alot of these other matches, hell most of them at WM, the wrestlers have already wrestled eachother, whether it be on a PPV, Raw, Smackdown, or some house shows. But Shawn and Jericho never had a match with eachother before WM19. So, to have to wrestle someone for the very first time on the biggest stage on the biggest PPV of the year is pretty crazy to me. Especially a match that had ALOT of expectations going into it. They delivered. That says alot about both guys, to me. If they had worked at least a handful of times before WM, who knows, it might have been the full 5.
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Definetly **** , just love seeing Taker take it to Cena for the most part of the first half of the match, and a god damn superplex off the top turnbuckle
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Well mine isn't WWF/E, it covers all promotions, so variety I guess lol
Which is insane. Like I said, took us over a year to do JUST WWF/E. Another year and a half for WCW (End of 88 when Turner bought it out to 01). Doing all promotions would take forever .
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While your there Cal, i asked this in this thread before and someone mentioned it may have been as early as his match with Mankind,

But do you know when Taker used the 'snake eyes' move for the first time?
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Fuck knows. Such a basic move, he could have been using it in his WCW days .

Unless you mean when he used it and then followed it up with a big boot? That could be narrowed down to WWE and at least 96 with the Mankind feud and he could finally do more shit.
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Unless you mean when he used it and then followed it up with a big boot? That could be narrowed down to WWE and at least 96 with the Mankind feud and he could finally do more shit.
Yeah mate, the full move with the boot follow up, i just cant for the life of me remember him using it in the 90's tbh, ill have to keep my eye out in his matches with Mankind, thx
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Part of me thinks he only started using it as the ABA, but who knows, he could have done it before.
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