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^ The finish isn't bullshit one bit.
An STF with handcuff chains? Meh. I have no problem with Cena winning it but they could have come up with something a little more destructive to make Orton quit than that.

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Cena/Shawn Mania for MOTY 07.

I wrote a review for Orton/Cena I Quit back in 09 with superior allusions to Lord Voldemort and the Death Eaters, likening the nature of their relationship to that of Legacy. Owell, Orton was evil.

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I'd probably side with Cena/Umaga just edging out Cena/HBK from Wrestlemania. Both are excellent for different reasons but I think the Cena performance and story of overcoming the seemingly unstoppable monster just grabs me more than his story to outperform and retain against arguably an even tougher opponent in HBK in the Main Event of Wrestlemania.

Hardy/Finlay 6/22/07 is top 5 and maybe top 3 for the year though. Hardy's babyface performance is astounding and just behind Cena at the Rumble for best of the year. The selling and ringwork is as good as anything we got that year in terms of the pacing, structure and time allotted. Finlay's legwork and all round offence is creative, logical and gripping. Its just an astoundingly great TV match and potentially the best nobody bar a handful of people ever talk about. You seen this HoL?
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Cena/Shawn Mania for MOTY 07.

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Cena/HBK Raw > Mania imo. I don't know why but their Mania match just never clicked with me for some reason. The Raw match however is brilliant. Cena/Umaga > both of them though.

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I have the RAW match substantially lower. It's long and all but there's a lot of both guys doing nothing in that match. A LOT.

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I'd probably side with Cena/Umaga just edging out Cena/HBK from Wrestlemania. Both are excellent for different reasons but I think the Cena performance and story of overcoming the seemingly unstoppable monster just grabs me more than his story to outperform and retain against arguably an even tougher opponent in HBK in the Main Event of Wrestlemania.
But the thing with the ring...

I mean, really, it doesn't bother me that much, but they could've come up with something better to bring the ropes down, dontchathink?

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Hardy/Finlay 6/22/07 is top 5 and maybe top 3 for the year though. Hardy's babyface performance is astounding and just behind Cena at the Rumble for best of the year. The selling and ringwork is as good as anything we got that year in terms of the pacing, structure and time allotted. Finlay's legwork and all round offence is creative, logical and gripping. Its just an astoundingly great TV match and potentially the best nobody bar a handful of people ever talk about. You seen this HoL?
Probably, but can't remember. Doesn't surprise me though. Hardy was churning out top class TV performances 06 - 07.

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Hunter/Jericho and Cena/Umaga are the top LMS matches. Hunter/Jericho is perfect.

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But the thing with the ring...

I mean, really, it doesn't bother me that much, but they could've come up with something better to bring the ropes down, dontchathink?
The ending is unfortunate with the lack of logic by everyone involved, but the consistent story and theme of the match is enough for me to tentatively place it above Cena/HBK. Cena in that environment is his best role to me and I'm a big fan of David vs Goliath matches and the work from both men just carries the match and emotion in spite of the finish. Yeah the idea in theory was smart and a fitting conclusion, the actual execution and presentation left a lot to be desired.

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Probably, but can't remember. Doesn't surprise me though. Hardy was churning out top class TV performances 06 - 07.
http://www.dailymotion.com/gb/releva...1#video=x2cnb7

Its an amazing match. Hardy has a Fujiwara esque sell of a couple of stiff Finlay forearms early on and the pacing is superb as the match develops from a tense and nervy exchange into Finlay seizing a weakened limb and making it his target. Hardy's selling and comeback is so well worked and built as his last hope and he sells the injury right through into the finish which manages to work in the context whereas it could have easily been deflating and felt like an unsatisfactory ending otherwise.

Agreed on Hardy though. From Unforgiven '05 right through to '08 as ECW Champ he had such a tremendous week to week consistency.

Thoughts on Edge/Hardy Summerslam '05? Unforgiven is by far their best match but on my last watch of this I adored it. Perfect angle advancement and totally devoid of the cliche WWE formula. Felt raw, organic and downright uncomfortable. Edge ditched his usual off putting and tame offence and brawled like a madman and Hardy sold the fear and vulnerability like a true professional.

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Vengeance 03:

Eddie/Benoit- ***1/2
Gunn/Noble- *
Bar Room Brawl- DUD
Rey&Kidman/WGTT- ****
Stephanie/Sable-*
Undertaker/Cena- ***1/4
Vince/Gowen- **
Show/Angle/Lesnar- ***3/4

Thoughts: Very good show here. Only one match sucked, but it had Torrie, so it was great . The rest was great. I know i probably gave too big of a rating to the tag team match but I really loved and it's a personal favorite.

Unforgiven 03:

Dudley Boyz/La Resistance- **
Steiner/Test- **
Orton/Michaels- ***1/2
Holly&Kim/Trish&Lita- **1/2
Kane/Shane- **3/4
Christian/RVD/Jericho- ***
Ross&Lawler/Coachman&Snow- DUD
HHH/Goldberg- **1/4

Thoughts: Nothing really good here, only Orton/Michaels deserves a watch.

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The Summerslam match is stiff and and RAW as fuck. When you're watching it you're almost like 80 percent convinced that it's a shoot due to how REAL it feels. Not high on the "STARZ" scale per se (Due to the short length of course), but it's high on the list of matches I'd watch if I needed a quick fix.





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