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Oliver-94 · 02-27-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HayleySabin

Nah. Ace only got in the mix there b/c Vince told him to. No real personal attachment at the time. The Jericho/Steph situation was stemming from their long standing feud. She didn't want Jericho to "win the big one." Especially the championship that is under the company that she had stake in. It made sense.

got you.

I need to watch the entire Rock/Y2J feud to get a real idea of what the story was lol. First, I'll need to complete 1997 (I'm going to watch Ground Zero 1997 soon). I'm just 7 episodes behind Kane's debut

**Obfuscation** · 02-27-2013, 08:26 PM

It's a hot program. Both were faces till the crumble of The Alliance, so naturally the fans were split. I'll stop there at the risk of spoiling any more fun for you.

Ground Zero. Maybe someone will enjoy the opener as much as me. Two of my favorites so of course I have taken a shine to it.

blarg_ · 02-27-2013, 08:42 PM

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Logo for the new Best of IYH DVD.

And full cover: http://www.wwedvdnews.com/wwe-best-o...d-cover/35917/

Ah man, this almost brings a tear to my eye. IYH was basically budget PPV's but I have such fond memories going to my local video store and renting them all on VHS to have a weekend marathon. LOVED those cheesy promotional videos at the start of each PPV, all the way to Todd Pettengill whoring himself out on 30% of the show.

Favorite IYH has to be In Your House 6 with the Bret/Diesel Steel Cage main event. Not necessarily because it was the best card with the best matches, but because that's the first PPV my parents ordered for me. A one-two punch Birthday gift of getting that with Wrestlemania 12

**Punter** · 02-27-2013, 08:46 PM

STARSZZZZ for Shawn Michaels/John Cena matches?

**Obfuscation** · 02-27-2013, 08:47 PM

Don't forget it had Owen vs Michaels on it.

blarg_ · 02-27-2013, 08:51 PM

YES! Brilliant match from both guys to end their rivalry. I'd even go so far to say that Owen and Shawn worked better together than Bret and Shawn. To me, both guys complimented each other's styles better. I was actually rooting big time for Owen even back then. At the time I absolutely HATED the Heartbreak Kid haha

**Obfuscation** · 02-27-2013, 08:58 PM

I'll agree. I don't even think I dig a single Bret vs Shawn match.

I loved Shawn in the Rockers. When he turned he crushed me. So much to the point as a kid whenever it was Bret vs Shawn I always took Bret's side. It was much of the same with Owen. King of Harts IMO.

blarg_ · 02-27-2013, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by HayleySabin

I'll agree. I don't even think I dig a single Bret vs Shawn match.

I loved Shawn in the Rockers. When he turned he crushed me. So much to the point as a kid whenever it was Bret vs Shawn I always took Bret's side. It was much of the same with Owen. King of Harts IMO.

I can't lie, Bret was one of my heroes as a kid. When he lost the title to Micheals at Mania I wanted to cry lol Met him in person before a house show at the Forum de Montreal in 1995 and it was a dream come true. Despite all this, I always enjoyed Owen's work much more. Even back when Owen was teaming with Koko, I was always in awe with his perfect balance of agility and technical prowess. People tend to forget that Owen was every bit as good as Bret was, perhaps not as good a ring general,but he could more than hold his own even in his rookie years. He definitely edged his older brother out in promos.

When it comes to Bret and Shawn, I enjoyed their encounter at Survivor Series 92 somewhat. At the time both guys were hungry to go out and prove that the workhorses could perform at a main event level. As for their match at Wrestlemania.. I loved it because of the significance behind the match, but it seemed uncoordinated at times and dragged on with alot of rest holds. It's not surprising given the Ironman stipulation, but I have seem better Ironmans down the line. Great match, but i'd say it's a bit overrated with so many people calling it the greatest match ever.

**Clique** · 02-27-2013, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Punter

STARSZZZZ for Shawn Michaels/John Cena matches?

WM 23 - **** 1/4
Raw 4/23/07 - **** 1/4
Raw Jan. 09 (forgot the date but JBL was at ringside) - *** 3/4

The other 09 match was at least *** iirc

I don't remember their Raw match in 05

**Obfuscation** · 02-27-2013, 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blarg_

I can't lie, Bret was one of my heroes as a kid. When he lost the title to Micheals at Mania I wanted to cry lol Met him in person before a house show at the Forum de Montreal in 1995 and it was a dream come true. Despite all this, I always enjoyed Owen's work much more. Even back when Owen was teaming with Koko, I was always in awe with his perfect balance of agility and technical prowess. People tend to forget that Owen was every bit as good as Bret was, perhaps not as good a ring general,but he could more than hold his own even in his rookie years. He definitely edged his older brother out in promos.

When it comes to Bret and Shawn, I enjoyed their encounter at Survivor Series 92 somewhat. At the time both guys were hungry to go out and prove that the workhorses could perform at a main event level. As for their match at Wrestlemania.. I loved it because of the significance behind the match, but it seemed uncoordinated at times and dragged on with alot of rest holds. It's not surprising given the Ironman stipulation, but I have seem better Ironmans down the line. Great match, but i'd say it's a bit overrated with so many people calling it the greatest match ever.

Being from Canada I would only expect to hear such a thing. He's treated as a national hero over there by what I've seen. I too always had a preference towards Owen. His style being a nice blend of technical with Japanese Juniors always appeal to me. Of course, as a kid I didn't view it like that. I simply saw it as "he does cool moves" haha. Certainly had more of a knack for being on the stick compared to Bret. Bret wasn't good. He never got comfortable talking barring the rare occasion. He's admitted the fact a few times. Far too many times as a kid during the height of wrestling I've spouted "I'm not a nugget!" It even garnered a nickname for me by my Mom b/c I was so favorable towards Owen. Fun times.

Survivor Series '92 was solid. Went a bit longer than it should. My only drawbacks with the match is it felt a bit too much too soon for Shawn at the time from a singles capacity. He wasn't quite sure at how to formula a lengthy singles match and resorted to mostly using rest holds over any interesting psychology/storytelling. I flat out loathe the Iron Man match personally. I've made it known. I wouldn't be surprised if the claim for "fan who disapproves of the match most" was given to me. At this rate, I don't know if anyone does. I understand the logic of pacing. It goes without saying. The match was worked all wrong if you ask me. I hardly can say a single bit of it was redeeming except for putting HBK over. Which wasn't hard. All that needed to be done was go the distance vs Bret and he'd be gravy.