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Old 05-04-2012, 06:12 AM   #1991 (permalink)
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Does anyone think the match between Shawn and kurt from Mania 21 is overrated?
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Old 05-04-2012, 06:17 AM   #1992 (permalink)
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Does anyone think the match between Shawn and kurt from Mania 21 is overrated?
I think it was overrated 3 or 4 years ago but not right now lol.The match was great and i have it at ****1/2.
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I think its overrated when people call it the greatest match ever or greatest WM match ever, but its still a great match, just has some flaws.
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Yeah it's around the ****1/2 range for me. Great match but yeah, it's not the best WM match ever like some people claim.
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Brock Lesnar Top 5

Brock Lesnar vs. The Undertaker - No Mercy 2002
Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle - 60 Minute Iron Man
Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena - Extreme Rules 2012
Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle - Summerslam 2003 (I personally thought it was better than their WM match, not sure if many will agree on that but in saying that, I've only watched their WM match twice, I think.)
Brock Lesnar vs. Eddie Guerrero - No Way Out 2004

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Brock Lesnar vs. Hulk Hogan (Smackdown 2002, because it was fucking awesome seeing him destroy Hogan)
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Undertaker's "Classic" Matches are against mostly Shawn and 3 with HHH so Razor king is right.
...and Edge... and Batista... and Kurt Angle.... and Randy Orton, each having at least a couple of classics with Taker, if not more. Not to mention 3 out of the 4 of them aren't even great workers.

I'd say Undertaker overall beats out just about anyone not named HBK for most classics tbh. Not to mention having a lot of great TV and PPV matches as well, some that are borderline classics.
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Taker vs Batista/Edge/orton are considered "classics"?? Really?

Good-great matches, sure. Calling it "classic" is simply overrating them imo.
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Chris Jericho's two standout matches are Fully Loaded 2000 and No Mercy 2008. I think I have both at **** 3/4. WrestleMania XIX is a splendid match, but it wasn't the show stealer for me. That honor goes to Rock/Austin III, and it didn't frankly steal the show. It was the show.

Lesnar had a lot of great matches in his short span at the top of WWE, which is pretty much his entire career. His absolute best is the Iron Man match against Angle followed by the Benoit match from SmackDown in December of 2003. After that, I'd say it's between the HIAC match against 'Taker and the SummerSlam '03 bout against Angle. Obviously, I haven't watched his "extreme" match against Cena--while typing all of this.

It might be difficult for me to form a "best of Triple H," but my 5 favorite matches of his would be (as they happened) Royal Rumble 2000 (Foley), Judgment Day 2000 (Rock; probably my all time favorite match), SummerSlam 2002 (Michaels), No Mercy 2008 (Jeff), and WrestleMania XXVII (Undertaker).


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When we say "Triple H's generation" what are we talking about - the last 10 years? Because Undertaker has had a ton of big time quality and classic matches in that period too along with Michaels.
Perhaps, the past 12 - 14 years, or even break it down to the years after Hunter and Michaels formed the original DX. That would be "Triple H's generation."


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On the whole "classic" thing, for me, a 5-star match or a near 5-star match is a classic. The definition. The rest are incredible matches, but not necessarily--classics. There are exceptions, obviously. For example, Rock/Hogan IS a classic; so is Hogan/Andre, personally.
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Undertaker's "Classic" Matches are against mostly Shawn and 3 with HHH so Razor king is right.
I didn't disagree with him just that Taker and Michaels should be mentioned as well. Taker's had classics with Angle, Lesnar, Batista and Edge this decade too. Of course that's a matter of opinion as you might have seen some people have mixed feels on HHH's considered classics with Austin and Michaels.


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Taker vs Batista/Edge/orton are considered "classics"?? Really?

Good-great matches, sure. Calling it "classic" is simply overrating them imo.
Depends on what you personally consider a classic match.
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Taker/Orton is the probably the best of the three taker matches mentioned above and its not even considered a "classic".
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