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Old 02-26-2013, 08:24 AM   #19821 (permalink)
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I can actually see why people wouldn't dig this match from the structure to the execution, and even Cena's selling. I was really into that last portion of the match from the time they did the wrestling exchanges to the finish.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:46 AM   #19822 (permalink)
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I guess I just didn't like it for the predictable ending, the no selling and the slow start. Not that I have anything against slow starts as a lot of the best matches of all time have slow starts but I don't know, I just think people are blinkered at times by the whole false finishing. It was an okay match, nothing more, nothing less in my view.

Did mark for the Piledriver though.
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Old 02-26-2013, 08:51 AM   #19823 (permalink)
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Not sure how a Cena Hurricarana to AA is a predictable finish. Thought it was the best finish they could really play out, since they had played out every other move in their arsenals. Maybe you mean a predictable winner? But I don't think that should take away from a match.
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Not sure how a Cena Hurricarana to AA is a predictable finish. Thought it was the best finish they could really play out, since they had played out every other move in their arsenals. Maybe you mean a predictable winner? But I don't think that should take away from a match.
Predictable winner, predictable the way Cena would no sell everything and just jump right into his finishing manoeuvre. It's the same old shit and it's pathetic. Sadly, we'll get that at Wrestlemania too no doubt, Cena no selling anything only to put Rock into the AA, smile, get the win, lift the belt, Michael Cole and Jerry the Cunt saying how Cena has overcome the odds once more, bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:03 AM   #19825 (permalink)
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But Cena doesn't feel pain, he just gets gassed out slowly during a match, gains a second wind and wins the match. If you look at it from a kayfabe POV. No need to sell.

The latter would be on the basis that the Rock somehow becomes Brock Lesnar overnight. I do agree they need to die away with the underdog stuff. Hes bigger than most of the roster.
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:07 AM   #19826 (permalink)
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But Cena doesn't feel pain, he just gets gassed out slowly during a match, gains a second wind and wins the match. If you look at it from a kayfabe POV. No need to sell.

The latter would be on the basis that the Rock somehow becomes Brock Lesnar overnight. I do agree they need to die away with the underdog stuff. Hes bigger than most of the roster.
Yeah, that's something I was thinking about while watching last night. Like why doesn't Cena just overpower this guy?... Oh that's right, he has to be the babyface underdog. It'd be a nice refreshing change to see Cena on the offensive, controlling his opponent for a while.
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But Cena doesn't feel pain, he just gets gassed out slowly during a match, gains a second wind and wins the match. If you look at it from a kayfabe POV. No need to sell.

The latter would be on the basis that the Rock somehow becomes Brock Lesnar overnight. I do agree they need to die away with the underdog stuff. Hes bigger than most of the roster.
But don't you see how pathetic that is?
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Can't wait to watch this next week!
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Old 02-26-2013, 09:22 AM   #19829 (permalink)
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***3/4 for Cena/Punk. Great match, but behind the SHIELD tag from last week for TV MOTY... and then behind the SHIELD tag from EC for MOTY. Re-watched both as well as the EC match and EC rating went down to ***3/4 while tag went to **** and the raw one went from ***1/2 to ***3/4.

Can someone give me the dates for Punk/Jericho and Bryan/Jericho Raw matches please?
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I just came in here to say one thing......DAT CENA/PUNK CHEMISTRY

Damn, you commercial breaks. Wish I could have seen the entire thing. At least they came back just in time for all the goodness. What I liked about this finisher fest of a match is the SELLING. They didn't just get up 5 seconds later to hit another big move. They actually laid on the mat and looked like they really had the wind knocked out of them.

Are people seriously saying that Cena didn't sell? How does running into the ring on the 9 count and freaking laying in the ring like a dead carcass afterwards= NO SELLING? Seriously, if you don't know the meaning of selling, don't bother to comment on it. Had he ran into the ring and started sprinting across the ropes and started doing triple jumps then the argument could have been made.

One of the simplest and most effective ways of selling is simply laying on the floor. Even look at how Cena climbed the ropes. To me Cena is one of the few wrestlers out there that actually climbs the turnbuckle like it's really 20 minutes to the match and he's had the shit kicked out of him.

And how the heck was this match predictable? As a matter of fact I was expecting a DQ or something and they turned into a triple threat at Mania. Thank God they didn't ruin such a good match with a DQ ending. I think those who saying this match was "predictable" are just typical Cena haters.

This match is one of the few instances where I actually enjoyed a finisher fest. Had it not been for the commercials I might have given it MOTY thus far but it's still Shield vs Ryback/Sheamus/Jericho for me. Nonetheless, we got an awesome main event last night and it really woke the crowd up.
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