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Old 02-25-2013, 02:27 PM   #19681 (permalink)
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I thought the stoppages did nothing but add to the match honestly. Here's a guy who spit in the face of the business and he's here rendering the face of the company helpless to the point that he needs a referee on top of his lifeless body to alleviate the damage caused by the larger than life BEAST of a man that is Brock Lesnar.

HE was the fucking weapon in that match. Brock doesn't directly use a weapon in the match, only to tie Cena around the post rendering him even more helpless. Every piece of the story fits so well next to one another that it blows my mind how somebody who has been away from the business for EIGHT YEARS comes back to arguably the greatest match of the last 15 years.

Fucking shits ALL over HBK's comeback that everybody jizzes about. The ROID wishes he had the talent to do what BROCK did too.
To me they screamed nothing more than PG bullshit because that clearly was their intentions. They pulled the same crap in the Ironman match with Orton and Cena until they grew a set and said "fuck it, just move on".

And yeah, Cena's comeback here beats all of HBK's overrated "babyface performances". With all due respect to HBK, a lot of things involving him are SO FUCKING OVERRATED and their "epicness" is forced to the fullest.

Also liked how Cena sold the left arm injury after the Kimura for the entire night rather than just forget about it the next minute.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:49 PM   #19682 (permalink)
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To me they screamed nothing more than PG bullshit because that clearly was their intentions. They pulled the same crap in the Ironman match with Orton and Cena until they grew a set and said "fuck it, just move on".

And yeah, Cena's comeback here beats all of HBK's overrated "babyface performances". With all due respect to HBK, a lot of things involving him are SO FUCKING OVERRATED and their "epicness" is forced to the fullest.

Also liked how Cena sold the left arm injury after the Kimura for the entire night rather than just forget about it the next minute.


Michaels/HHH SS 02 > Cena/Brock ER 12.

A guy coming off a legite back injury putting on a terrific match with HHH (their best IMO). Both guys were fantastic in this. Also HHH was way more devious than lesnar was here. Directly after the match you see the intensity in HHH just staring at HBK and bashing him with that sledgehammer.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:49 PM   #19683 (permalink)
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I "LOVE" how Cena beats BROCK and then proceeds to job to Johnny Ace at the very next PPV. Why didn't he just lose like every PPV match if he was just going to have his big redemption storyline anyways ? Makes absolutely no sense for him to beat BROCK because if BROCK had to win that match and crush Trips than he'd somehow look even more badass than he does right now. I don't think the loss hurt him THAT BAD, but he should have won his first match back, period.

WWE and their fucked up booking ; Cena should have beaten The Rock so we never have to see that shitty feud again, then the next night when Cena comes out with that troll-like Cena face on, BROCK's music hits and all hell breaks loose resulting in Cena getting mauled and beaten @ Extreme Rules.

The Roid fucking ruins everything.

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT... HHH was more devious than BROCK LESNAR ; the same guy who licked blood off of his gloves and wrecked the face of the company in every way imaginable ? BROCK managed to make seemingly the most hated man in Chicago a hero that night, a feat that nobody else in that fucking company, not even CM Punk would be able to do.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:53 PM   #19684 (permalink)
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Cena/Lesnar is so far ahead of HHH/HBK Summerslam '02 it isn't even funny. Cena's babyface performance is better, Lesnar's heel performance and emoting is better, the selling, structure and ability to generate a sense of authentic violence without the need for an excessive amount of props is far greater in Lesnar/Cena etc. Christ I can't even think what HHH/HBK does better. Its a mess of a match with a poor structure, limited selling which diminishes the tension and emotion and which suffers from the HHH/HBK formula of trying to force an epic. Raw in San Antonio & Taboo Tuesday '04 are the only matches where they worked a more simpler and basic style and who would have guessed, those two were comfortably their best encounters.
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I "LOVE" how Cena beats BROCK and then proceeds to job to Johnny Ace at the very next PPV. Why didn't he just lose like every PPV match if he was just going to have his big redemption storyline anyways ? Makes absolutely no sense for him to beat BROCK because if BROCK had to win that match and crush Trips than he'd somehow look even more badass than he does right now. I don't think the loss hurt him THAT BAD, but he should have won his first match back, period.

WWE and their fucked up booking ; Cena should have beaten The Rock so we never have to see that shitty feud again, then the next night when Cena comes out with that troll-like Cena face on, BROCK's music hits and all hell breaks loose resulting in Cena getting mauled and beaten @ Extreme Rules.

The Roid fucking ruins everything.

WAIT WAIT WAIT WAIT... HHH was more devious than BROCK LESNAR ; the same guy who licked blood off of his gloves and wrecked the face of the company in every way imaginable ? BROCK managed to make seemingly the most hated man in Chicago a hero that night, a feat that nobody else in that fucking company, not even CM Punk would be able to do.


Well punk is only from Chicago........

Plus Brock= better heel than punk. I know a lot of people who don't care for Brock anymore. He's just there for his payday and that pisses some wrestling fans off. The atmosphere was questionable that night for a Chicago crowd, trust me I was there. I've attended every wrestling show in Chicago for over 8 + years now. Not saying it was a bad crowd, but for Chicago it was kinda dull.
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Old 02-25-2013, 02:57 PM   #19686 (permalink)
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Cena is the fucking man. John Boy grows on me more and more every day as a worker, just when I think he's reached his pinnacle he continues to astound me. After MITB 11 I said "Yep, there we go, Cena has just peaked from a storytelling perspective and there's nowhere to go from here", only for him to surpass that performance (arguably) NINE FUCKING MONTHS LATER.

This is seriously one of the most mind blowing cases of a worker ever. If he continues on this pace he'll be in the GOAT match within the next three years .
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Cena is the fucking man. John Boy grows on me more and more every day as a worker, just when I think he's reached his pinnacle he continues to astound me. After MITB 11 I said "Yep, there we go, Cena has just peaked from a storytelling perspective and there's nowhere to go from here", only for him to surpass that performance (arguably) NINE FUCKING MONTHS LATER.

This is seriously one of the most mind blowing cases of a worker ever. If he continues on this pace he'll be in the GOAT match within the next three years .


Agree with you on this. Cena is so underrated in the iwc it's ridiculous. I've NEVER seen a more hated man than cena on here


As for the GOAT match. Cena/Taker will be truly amazing if it happens at a wrestlemania
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Too bad Cena's character is one of the worst tv persona's ever.
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Old 02-25-2013, 03:04 PM   #19689 (permalink)
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Yeah his character is terrible, no denying that.

Although I would take Cena over The Roid any day of the week (due to The Roid's utter incompetence to do anything productive whether it be a match or an interview, he just sucks), Cena's act has been stale since late 2005 for me. It's actually ridiculous how long he's stayed on top despite BARELY evolving as a character during that time span, which is the opposite of someone like The Undertaker or CM Punk.
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John Cena is vastly underrated in my opinion, I think it has gotten a tad better over the past few years, but their are still people that are like "Cena sux lolz" which is not the case anymore. Cena to me has already surpassed The Rock and within the next year or two, he can pass Hogan/Austin as the WWE's GOAT.

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