[Big Z]

Originally Posted by Desecrated

Got anywhere where I could read the first 5?

I'll be posting them on my blog starting 11th March, one every day, so it ends up with WM 28 review going online on the day of WM 29, then WM 29 review getting written and posted the next day .

[The Beast Incarnate]

VINTAGE CAL. Having fun with your shitty Wrestlemania VI yet ?

Wrestlemania IX is better than most of the "shit" Manias due to the commentary trio of Jim Ross/Bobby Heenan/Randy Savage alone. Bobby is on a level of his own in terms of color commentating, NOBODY touches the brain. Jerry Lawler's commentary work in the present day is so atrocious that it's beginning to tarnish his once great work honestly.

JUST FINISHED The Best of Raw and Smackdown 2012 on DVD and I'm going to drop some STARZ and a paragraph or two on my thoughts. 15-10 on my Mania list is incoming as well too, going to be a busy busy day here at Wrestlingforum.com ....IDGAF because I don't have class till another 8 hours so I got alot of time to kill. Perhaps I'll watch this lovely new Night of Champions 2010 DVD I have here, HMMMM...

[Big Z]

Last few matches really saved WM 6 from being a total shit fest. On to WM 7 now!

[zep81]

Originally Posted by Big Z

On to WM 7 now!

Always been one of my favorites, Piper/Hart

[xdoomsayerx]

Originally Posted by KingOfKings

VINTAGE CAL. Having fun with your shitty Wrestlemania VI yet ?

Wrestlemania IX is better than most of the "shit" Manias due to the commentary trio of Jim Ross/Bobby Heenan/Randy Savage alone. Bobby is on a level of his own in terms of color commentating, NOBODY touches the brain. Jerry Lawler's commentary work in the present day is so atrocious that it's beginning to tarnish his once great work honestly.

JUST FINISHED The Best of Raw and Smackdown 2012 on DVD and I'm going to drop some STARZ and a paragraph or two on my thoughts. 15-10 on my Mania list is incoming as well too, going to be a busy busy day here at Wrestlingforum.com ....IDGAF because I don't have class till another 8 hours so I got alot of time to kill. Perhaps I'll watch this lovely new Night of Champions 2010 DVD I have here, HMMMM...

I watched this last week. Pretty underrated ppv. Loved how Kane went over taker, 6 man challenge was good, and Bryan/Miz was a good affair. Probably mizs best match

[Big Z]

Originally Posted by zep81

Always been one of my favorites, Piper/Hart

That was WM 8 .

[zep81]

Originally Posted by Big Z

That was WM 8 .

As soon as i posted i thought, hang on was that 7 or 8 lol should have checked my VHS's lol, Still, 7 at least has Warrior/Savage and i quite enjoyed Bulldog/Warlord tbh

[The Beast Incarnate]

KingOfKings Snowflakez : The Best of Raw and Smackdown 2012 (3 Disc Set)


Disc One

Kane vs Zack Ryder (Falls Count Anywhere : RAW 1/23/12) : ** 1/4

CM Punk vs Daniel Bryan (Raw 1/30/12) : *** 3/4

Randy Orton vs Wade Barrett (No DQ SD 2/3/12) : ** 1/2

Randy Orton/Sheamus/Big Show vs Daniel Bryan/Miz/Cody Rhodes (SD 9/3/12) : **

Santino Marella vs Dolph Ziggler vs Jack Swagger (RAW 2/4/12) : *

Randy Orton vs Kane (RAW 4/9/12) : ** ¾


Disc Two


CM Punk vs Mark Henry (No DQ ; RAW 4/16/12) : ****

Primo/Epico vs Kofi Kingston/R-Truth (RAW 4/30/12) : * ½

Randy Orton vs Sheamus (SD 5/18/12) : ***

The Great Khali vs Christian vs Dolph Ziggler vs Jack Swagger (RAW 6/11/12) : *** ½

Heath Slater vs Vader (RAW 6/11/12): ½ *

Dolph Ziggler vs Sheamus (SD 6/22/12) : ***

Rey Mysterio vs Kane vs Alberto Del Rio vs Daniel Bryan (SD 7/27/12) : ***

Ryback vs Curt Hawkins/Tyler Reks (RAW 8/6/12) : ¼ *


Disc Three

Rey Mysterio vs Cody Rhodes (SD 8/31/12) : ** 1/2

John Cena vs Alberto Del Rio (FCA ; RAW 9/3/12) : *** ½

Randy Orton vs Damien Sandow (SD 9/7/12) : **

Dolph Ziggler vs Kofi Kingston (RAW 9/24/12) : ** 3/4

Beth Phoenix vs Natalya (SD 9/28/12) : ** ½

Ryback vs Tensai (SD 9/28/12) : *

Sheamus vs Damien Sandow (RAW 10/1/12) : ***

Team Hell No vs David Otunga/Alberto Del Rio (SD 10/5/12 ) : ** ½

CM Punk vs Dolph Ziggler (SD 10/5/12) : ** ¾

Daniel Bryan vs Dolph ZIggler (RAW 10/22/12) : *** ¾

John Cena/Ryback vs CM Punk/Dolph Ziggler (RAW 11/5/12) : ** ¾

Randy Orton vs Alberto Del Rio (FCA ; SD 11/6/12) : ** 1/4


Thoughts


2012 was a very up and down year for most people. If you were a fan of CM Punk like I am, you probably adored a good chunk of the main event scene. If you are indifferent to Punk or downright HATE him you probably hated 2012 and chances are you won't give this one a look. The question for this set is simple ; with only three discs instead of the four that were used in 2011 for the "Best Of" set, are the smaller confines stocked with more quality from a year that featured some knockout matches and promos?

Well first let me talk about the segments on this DVD. On last year's DVD we got one of the most legendary and iconic promos in WWE history in the CM Punk "pipe bomb" promo, and of course The Rock's return to the WWE Universe, so how on earth can it be topped in terms of segments ? Surprisingly they aren't too far off and quality mainly because on the 2011 DVD you essentially had those two awesome moments with the rest of the segments being shit like Miz-Riley and a whole other bunch of forgettable stuff. On this set you have of course BROCK's RETURN which is epic, Chris Jericho's highlight reel in where he trolls the fans by saying fuck all, Cena's fantastic pre Wrestlemania promo on The Rock which was one of the best promos I've ever seen him cut, the Cena-Lesnar brawl, Big Show CRUSHING the likes of Kofi, Truth, and Brodus Clay, Bryan and Kane's anger management, Punk and Cena's pre Night of Champions promo which was also awesome, and who could forget the Punk vs McMahon segment that wasn't really a match but a segment ? The segments on this DVD are AWESOME bar for a few shitty ones such as a random BAD Santino segment that was thankfully short, and the terrible Rock concert which I didn't care for. If you're a SEGMENTZ! fan then you should pick this up but if you're in this thread I doubt that's what you wanna hear in a review so, how are the matches ?

There are four genuinely GREAT matches on this set, those being Punk-Bryan, Bryan-Ziggler, Cena-Del Rio, Khali-Christian-Swagger-Ziggler and of course the best match on the set in Punk-Henry. These five matches were fantastic and I'd definitely watch again, but the thing that made me angry about this listing was the fact that they left my TV MOTY off this set for the second fucking year in a row (Henry-Punk 4/2/12)! Other than the big five on this DVD you have some other notably great work here from guys such as Sheamus who pretty much has the rest of the three star matches on this one, really showcasing his underrated skills as a worker in bouts like his one against Damien Sandow which is surprisingly overlooked. So pretty much the big five are the only great matches on the set with a trio of Sheamus matches rounding out the above average - good stuff.

The average stuff on this set mainly comes from brawls. I swear to god it feels like every single match on this is a Randy Orton/Kane/Del Rio No DQ match, as Orton has THREE No DQ matches on this with none of them being what I would call "great" and two of them essentially being average at best. Why were there so many Orton matches on this DVD ? I love Randy (not so much nowadays), but why does he have six matches on this set (with ONE being really good and the rest being decent-average-MEH) while CM Punk only has four matches with one of them being a tag match where he isn't showcased as much ? Why are there TWO Ryback squashes on this set, one I can understand because they want to showcase the guy, but TWO ? We can't put Punk-Henry from 4/2/12 on disc but we can have average brawls like Orton-Barrett, Kane-Ryder, etc on here ? What about the Kofi/Truth vs Primo/Epico tag which was far below average, why was that on a "Best Of" ? How about the BAD Santino vs Ziggler vs Swagger match, why was THAT on here ?

I'm sorry, but the 2011 set blows this set out of the water when it comes to match quality. While I'd take Punk-Henry over anything on the 2011 set bar Cena-Mysterio, there's no excuse to not have matches like Cena-Bryan, Punk-Henry I, and other various matches on here while having a whole bunch of random TV matches that don't belong on a "Best Of" in the slightest sense of the word. On that set you had Mysterio-Cena, Punk-Ziggler, Orton-Rhodes, Orton-Christian X2, Miz-Morrison, the GOOD Miz-Cena, and the list goes on and on and on, so to have so many matches below the standards of a "best of" comp is unacceptable. If you love average brawling or the likes of Orton/Ziggler/Del Rio you'll probably be a fan though.

In short, no matter what gripes I have over what WASN'T on here, I genuinely always have fun with these "Best of" sets as it allows a smattering of great segments and TV matches to be released in DVD quality with a ton being exclusive to that DVD. I'm saying BUY because of the great segments and some great matches involving Punk/Bryan/Cena/Ziggler etc, but it's not a must buy. If you enjoyed the 2011 set don't expect anything better, and you'll probably enjoy this set as well. It isn't WWE's best effort at all here but to be honest it's damn near impossible to FAIL with one of these year end DVDs due to the content being so good at times.



OVERALL RATING : 6.75/10

[Jack Evans 187]

Well Kings, after reading that and knowing that I believe I liked Sheamus/Orton a little more than you did, plus the fact that the Blu Ray has the Sheamus/Bryan Street Fight, I think I'll have to pick this one up some time.

[The Beast Incarnate]

These are pretty much some of my favorite sets every year with the 2011 edition being one of my favorite DVDs of all time, no joke. Still blows my fucking mind how they manage to include ANOTHER Barrett vs Orton match on the Blu Ray version, do they just love torturing their fans with these mediocre matches ? I swear though, the NO DQ one on this DVD is probably their best match ever, that or the TLC 2011 tables match. The rest can go fuck off and die .

If you enjoy one of these "best of's" you'll enjoy them all though, legit.