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Old 02-24-2013, 11:29 AM   #19531 (permalink)
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Shawn Michaels vs Kurt Angle - ★★★★
Eddie Guerrero vs Kurt Angle - ★★★
Ric Flair vs Undertaker - ★★★
John Cena vs Triple H - ★★★★
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Old 02-24-2013, 11:39 AM   #19532 (permalink)
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Jumped back on my ECW 09 Project:

Jack Swagger & Tyson Kidd Vs Tommy Dreamer & Evan Bourne - ECW 24/03/2009

Bourne came back last week. Tyson for the last few weeks has been mentioning Bourne in promos and shit. Dreamer says he wants to win the ECW title before his contract his up or he's retiring. Good pairings for a match imo .

Bourne and Tyson go at it to start, nice basic mat work to try and gain control until they spill to the outside and Natalya provides a distraction and Kidd and beat the fuck out of Bourne... until Bourne tags out. Seemed somewhat pointless that it didn't lead into a FIP section or anything, but whatevers, match is only like 2 minutes in. Still technically the babyface shine period, which becomes evident when Dreamer and Bourne clear house as we go to commercial.

We come back and Dreamer is taking a beating. He's good at doing that. SWAGGER FACTS. Reminds me of the Hardy facts we got during his entrance when he was a heel in 02/03. Swagger and Kidd do a nice job of trash talking Dreamer while they beat him down, makes the basic shit they were doing far more interesting. Hot tag, SSP, Bourne pins Kidd for the win.

Solid tag, not much else though.

Rating: **1/2

Christian & Finlay Vs Mark Henry & Kane - ECW 31/03/2009

Everyone has been praising Henry for finally "coming out of his shell" or some shit with his 2011 run... but fuck, was Henry ever not AWESOME? I saw a couple of his SD 02 matches... he was good. Some from Raw 03. Good. ECW 08 he was pretty sweet. ECW 09 so far he's doing great. SD 06 had a bunch of good stuff. Is it just because he was never that consistent/kept getting injured?

Any combination of guys in this match makes me . Finlay and Kane hitting each other is sweet. Christian using his speed against Kane and shit is cool. Henry against anyone is .

Henry laughing when he slams Finlay is awesome. Then he throws him into a corner and pummels him. I need to check out their singles matches from 08. Henry is just a fucking BADASS. If I didn't already know Punk winning MITB for a second year straight would begin his great heel turn and shit I'd be wanting HENRY to win. He dominates here and pins Christian, then takes out Kane just for the hell of it.

Good match, a ton of fun, especially if you love all 4 guys involved. Even if you don't like Kane much, he doesn't do anything that would be considered anywhere near bad.

Rating: ***

Mark Henry Vs Christian Vs Finlay Vs Tommy Dreamer - ECW 07/04/2009

Oh sweet jesus I think I came. What a match. If only they could have put someone else in there rather than Dreamer. Still, I'm super happy with this one . Hope it doesn't suck!

Ok, so whoever gets pinned in this match is eliminated, and next week its a triple threat between the final 3. Someone loses that match, and we get a singles match between the final 2, and the winner faces Swagger at Backlash.

Henry early on it just in full on BEAST MODE. He even looks awesome when he gets taken out of the match for a little while, as it takes all 3 of his opponents just to suplex him, then take him out of the ring, then throw him into the stairs.

Dreamer literally just disappears at one point. I *think* I saw him jump off the apron... but I don't really know what he did. If he jumped on Henry... then why was he so hurt? Henry didn't do anything I don't think because he's still down and out when Dreamer gets back in again. LOL.

Henry gets back in and just murders Dreamer with a clothesline. Then Christian takes him down, goes for a cover, and Henry powers out of it and throws Christian right into a cover on Dreamer. Awesome little spot.

WSS attempt on Dreamer, shot to Henry's head with the sheleighly, and Finlay pins him. Booo . Henry should have kept going dammit.

Great stuff.

Rating: ***1/4
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Very pleased that WWE looks to be continuing their Jack Swagger/Zeb Coulter push. Swagger to me believe it or not is like Brock Lesnar LITE, with tons of experience on the amateur scene translating to skills in performing. I don't know, some people like to criticize him as looking "goofy" but I think he brings a certain aura to him kind of like Brock did once upon a time (though obviously not even close to Brock's magnitude), and has a natural charisma that when paired with a guy like Zeb can go out there and just WRESTLE.

Plus he had that supposed epic match against Christian on ECW in 2009 which I never saw believe it or not because I didn't watch ANY ECW after 2006 if it wasn't PPV. Anybody wanna throw out some recommendations for some Henry/Swagger matches that happened in the late years of WWECW ? All I've got to do is finish this last disc of RAW&SD2012 and I've got NOC 10 on tap but then I have literally NOTHING NEW to watch.
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Everything at *** and above from my ECW 09 run so far. Most involve Swagger, Christian and Henry:

Jack Swagger Vs Christian - ECW Title Match - ECW 24/04/2009 - ****1/2
John Morrison Vs Evan Bourne - ECW 14/04/2009 - ****
Matt Hardy Vs Jack Swagger - ECW Title Match - ECW 13/01/2009 - ****
Jack Swagger Vs Finlay - ECW 03/02/2009 - ***3/4
Christian & Finlay Vs Jack Swagger & Mark Henry - ECW 17/02/2009 - ***1/4
Mark Henry Vs Christian Vs Finlay Vs Tommy Dreamer - ECW 07/04/2009 - ***1/4
Matt Hardy Vs Mark Henry - ECW 06/01/2009 - ***1/4
Jack Swagger Vs Finlay - ECW 06/01/2009 - ***
Jack Swagger Vs Matt Hardy – ECW Title - Royal Rumble 25/02/2009 - ***
Jack Swagger Vs Christian - ECW 10/02/2009 - ***
Christian & Finlay Vs Mark Henry & Kane - ECW 31/03/2009 - ***
Christian, Finlay & Tommy Dreamer Vs Jack Swagger, The Miz & John Morrison - ECW 03/03/2009 - ***
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Very pleased that WWE looks to be continuing their Jack Swagger/Zeb Coulter push. Swagger to me believe it or not is like Brock Lesnar LITE, with tons of experience on the amateur scene translating to skills in performing. I don't know, some people like to criticize him as looking "goofy" but I think he brings a certain aura to him kind of like Brock did once upon a time (though obviously not even close to Brock's magnitude), and has a natural charisma that when paired with a guy like Zeb can go out there and just WRESTLE.

Plus he had that supposed epic match against Christian on ECW in 2009 which I never saw believe it or not because I didn't watch ANY ECW after 2006 if it wasn't PPV. Anybody wanna throw out some recommendations for some Henry/Swagger matches that happened in the late years of WWECW ? All I've got to do is finish this last disc of RAW&SD2012 and I've got NOC 10 on tap but then I have literally NOTHING NEW to watch.


agreed, id like to see his matches longer to see what he really has. Maybe swagger/Del Rio can steal the show at maina
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JACK SWAGGER

This Bryan-Ziggler match from RAW 2012 is ballin' as shit, this is more like it... More of this and less of shitty Santino segments PLZ.

No doubt in my mind that if Swagger wasn't paired with such a dull opponent like Del Rio at Wrestlemania that he'd be involved in a show stealing match. Daniel Bryan vs Jack Swagger would tear the fucking house down and have MOTN potential if given 10-15 minutes (somewhere in that range), but I'm honestly so bored with whatever Alberto does that I can't see me rating Del Rio vs Swagger anything above three and a half. Alberto just doesn't wrestle classics

Now I kinda REALLY wanna see Bryan-Swagger. FUCK. How was that Orton-Swagger match on Smackdown anyways ? I've heard nothing but positive things so far.
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John Morrison Vs Evan Bourne - ECW 14/04/2009

Draft happened last week. So would this be the awesome match people were pimping like a motherfucker back in the day? I remember liking it but nowhere near the level or everywhere else.

Holy mother of fuck. Bourne takes some KILLER bumps. Leg sweep on the apron folds him up all nasty, and he takes 2 running knees to the face following it that look REGAL nasty.

Morrison looks like a fucking BOSS on offence here. Seriously. Shocked me too. He works over Bourne real fucking nicely, Bourne has some cool unique counters and comebacks, and Morrison is great at cutting him off. Some more nasty strikes from both of them, with Bourne wrestling like he's back in ROH at times too with some of his STIFF SHOTS.

Fucking PERFECTLY timed crossbody from Bourne to Morrison who was just about to run the ropes, so they go over the top instead. He literally hit him with the move the moment Morrison's back hit the ropes.

They both sell the match well the further it goes, and they really work the spots into the match well too. This is just a fucking great match, definitely something I wish I'd re-watched before. A top ECW 09 match for sure.

Rating: ****

Finlay Vs Christian Vs Tommy Dreamer - ECW 14/04/2009

Time for this Backlash #1 contenders match thingy to continue! Really would have liked Henry to have made it through. Christian beating Henry in the final would have been a nice momentum builder for him I think.

No Henry = no BEAST to truly dominate the match, so its a real back and forth match for the most part, with everyone taking turns at being in control. I like how they don't just do the typical "take on guy out, 2 wrestle in the ring" shit. They DO have Christian stay on the outside half way into the match leaving Finlay and Dreamer 1 on 1, but Finlay actually takes the time to go back outside and take Christian out again so he has a REASON to remain there for so long.

Dreamer looks really good here, something that definitely surprised me because I've never thought much of Dreamer at all. His old ECW matches, pretty much all of his stuff in WWE etc, but he has been far from bad thus far in his ECW 09 run, and he had a great No DQ match or something with Swagger in late 08 that I would go as far as to say it's Dreamer's best match.

Nice finishing stretch with the 3, and while Christian is tied up in the ropes, Finlay beats Dreamer. Christian Vs Finlay next week .

Great match. Awesome show to have this and Morrison/Bourne on it. This title chase match thingy had produced 2 great matches out of 2 so far. Christian/Finlay should be great too. Then Christian/Swagger at Backlash? Fuck yes.

Rating: ***1/4
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Now I kinda REALLY wanna see Bryan-Swagger. FUCK. How was that Orton-Swagger match on Smackdown anyways ? I've heard nothing but positive things so far.
It was a good match and probably Orton's best in a while (EC excluded). I really don't get the buzz about him here. I'm so indifferent to him that I might turn off my stream when the World Title match is on.

And comparing him to Lesnar? LOL, just no. Lesnar screams EXCITEMENT as soon as he walks down the ramp. Swagger gives me that "skip this shit" vibe.
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Finlay Vs Christian - Superstars 16/04/2009

So the finals of the ECW title chase match... takes place on SUPERSTARS. Bah. Well, it was the FIRST Superstars show ever (well, first of the new version of it), and between this match and Undertaker appearing, they wanted to make it a big show. Compliment to Christian and Finlay .

Great non stop action here. Both guys are just desperate to win so they can go to Backlash and wrestle Swagger for the ECW title. Everything they do looks nasty and hard hitting with neither man gaining any kind of advantage. Then Christian is able to hit the Killswitch OUTOFNOWHERE and fuck, Finlay looks like he went head first into the mat for real. It was pretty short, but they packed so much into with due to the fast pace without making it a spot fest or any of that shit. Good but a little disappointing at the same time.

Rating: **3/4

Paul Burchill Vs Evan Bourne - 21/04/2009

Seriously, Burchill looks like a fat Drew McIntyre. Its uncanny.

Burchill wrestlers a Regal-esque match, only not as good obviously, but he looks nice and nasty with his offence, and Bourne is a perfect guy to really bump and sell this shit. Incredible overhead butterfly suplex from Burchill.

Another awesome version of an overhead suplex from Burchill. Makes me mark out a little . Only real problem with Burchill is that he does a ton of rest holds. He DOES work the holds a little, but he seems to do far too many in one match. A little bit of variety would be nice.

Things manage to pick up when Bourne makes a comeback, and he looks great doing so. Finish falls a little flat, and the crowd weren't really into the match at all, but I quite liked it for the most part. Just needed less rest holds.

Rating: **1/4
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So I wanted to keep this out of the GOAT thread, even though I don't even kniw if that would belong their, but who are your Top 10 favorite performers of all time, and it could include all of their work. Mine are as followed:

Ric Flair
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Keep in mind I am only doing guys that have been with WCW/WWF/WWE in their career, or else this list would be different.
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