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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

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I really do HOPE that they do well with Swagger, I was one of the original Swagger fans around here (watched some of his stuff in FCW before he came to ECW and liked him). But any time they appear to do something with him they cut off his balls and send him packing. STOP IT WWWE.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

QUIT TOYING WITH THE EMOTIONS OF THE FANS.

After WM he'll be squashed by Cena and back on Superstars

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Exactly. Nobody cared about Bret Hart's promos. They were there and yet fans got engrossed in his work. Yes, once again, successes breed different scenarios. I get that. Put that in the back of your mind and strip it down to the bare minimum. It's fairly identical. Quality worker (some don't even think Bret was THAT good, tbhayley.) & blah on the mic. Doesn't mean they couldn't add something to the table. Bret clearly did. I see no reason why Swagger couldn't develop into a credible heel main eventer once again. Only to remain at that level on this go around.
And the only thing Swagger brings to the table is sometimes good, not great matches (just going on his recent work) - and that's all. He's never going to have any memorable promos because he sucks terribly on the mic, and Zeb Colter is handling everything from a character perspective atm for him.

From what I've read on here, the general consensus on Swagger atm is: that new character is good, the new theme is good, his new manager Zeb is great, but Swagger is just Swagger, that goofy looking guy who can't cut a promo to save his life and was jobbed out for two years so it brings his credibility into question that now he's suddenly in a World Title match at WrestleMania after suddenly returning. They're building him up again, but they need to do a lot more. Why is the contender for the World Title beating guys like Zack Ryder, when a guy like Mark Henry is going over guys like Randy Orton when he doesn't have a World Title match?

And as far as all this Del Rio talk goes, I'm still not a fan of him, but I can admit he's more tolerable as a face now and his matches are more interesting due to him implementing new moves into his matches. He's much more natural as a face and it shows. But I don't like that he's only pushed for being Mexican and the fact that he's made Ziggler tap out like three times in two weeks, that doesn't make your future World Champion look good at all, but that's more WWE's crappy booking fault.

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That's the point of a mouthpiece. Dutch should be handling all of the heavy lifting when it comes to the promo time. It's ideal.

The goofy crap needs to end. That's such an objective statement if I've ever heard one. The thought of goofy as never - not once - crossed my mind while watching the guy. It's fabricated among some people on here who don't like him. Much to the same about Kofi Kingston being "some guy who plays video games too much." Useless slander to target someone a specific poster (or posters) don't want to see succeed and/or don't happen to enjoy.

Swagger's lack of mic skills has been proven. It's there. Already harped on the topic pages ago and even right now with why Dutch Mantell is aligned with him in the first place. Not everyone is blessed with the gift of gab. That's what associates some to be on a higher echelon. Doesn't mean Swagger can't have a really good, if not great, career following this current run.

As for the booking, it's simple. That's how WWE does their stuff nowadays. It isn't good. It could be better, but it's not out of the ordinary. Some fans will choose to buy it and some won't. Aka those who don't mind or like Swagger will be pro and those who don't will be against. There is quite a bit in-between now and WrestleMania. His progression can grow. Lets not jump the gun in any situation here. He's gone from Zack Ryder to Daniel Bryan. Not to mention Randy Orton was pinned on PPV in the middle of it. Right steps are being taken. I've yet to see a sign to where this new angle has gone in a wrong direction as of this moment.

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Judging by the spoilers I read, he has a great match against a very capable opponent on Smackdown this week (refraining from spoilers for my PEEPS). For some reason Jack Swagger vs Alberto Del Rio is an appealing match to me because it's not the same old shit with the exception of Del Rio .... WHY WOULD ANYBODY SUPPORT HIM AS WORLD CHAMPION ? I just don't understand it ; Del Rio is in one of the worst WHC feuds ever (arguably the worst) against Sheamus, turns face and wrestles against the 3MB, and then randomly wins the world title ?.. OKAY ?

If Swagger could take the belt (bets are he won't) Then Swagger vs Jericho/Orton/Sheamus all appeal to me in some way. If GOD FORBID Del Rio retains and there's NOT a Ziggler cash in at Mania, there's only one place to go and that's a feud with Henry.





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Thanks for spoiling SD.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Watching John Cena vs The Jiz from Wrestlemania XXVII. WOWZERS THIS IS BAD .





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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Cena/Miz is in that category of "So bad for a WRESTLEMANIA main event that it's actually hilarious"

Still a DUD for me, any way you look at it, it's a bad match.

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I'd put it as the undisputed worst Wrestlemania main event honestly, with nothing really coming close. From the horrendous pacing all the way to the Rock nonsense at the end, to the fact that it's THE FUCKING MIZ IN THE MAIN EVENT OF WRESTLEMANIA AHAHAHAHAHAHA........ It's just BAD.

I love how we went from HBK-Taker to Miz-Cena as a Wrestlemania Main Event .





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WM 27 was the definition of a filler Wrestlemania.

29 is also looking that way at the moment sadly.

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