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Swagger is very good in the ring, tbh. I think most people lost interest during his rut a couple years ago and forget all the awesome matches he had before that.



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Exactly. Nobody cared about Bret Hart's promos. They were there and yet fans got engrossed in his work. Yes, once again, successes breed different scenarios. I get that. Put that in the back of your mind and strip it down to the bare minimum. It's fairly identical. Quality worker (some don't even think Bret was THAT good, tbhayley.) & blah on the mic. Doesn't mean they couldn't add something to the table. Bret clearly did. I see no reason why Swagger couldn't develop into a credible heel main eventer once again. Only to remain at that level on this go around.

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Swagger and Del Rio will have a really capable opening match at Mania, I can see the both of them meshing well for a 10-15 minute match.

Del Rio's walking out with the belt but I could see the feud carrying on for a while post Mania.



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WWE literally gave us no reason to care about Swagger the moment he got moved from ECW. No surprise people don't give a fuck about him. They never really build him up. He won the WHC with zero build and looked like a chump in the process. Then he lost it and disappeared into the bottom of the card again. Now he's returned after disappearing completely for months and earns a WHC match at WM? Yeah ok. I'm sure fans will buy into him as a potential WHC again in 7 weeks .
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Exactly. Nobody cared about Bret Hart's promos. They were there and yet fans got engrossed in his work. Yes, once again, successes breed different scenarios. I get that. Put that in the back of your mind and strip it down to the bare minimum. It's fairly identical. Quality worker (some don't even think Bret was THAT good, tbhayley.) & blah on the mic. Doesn't mean they couldn't add something to the table. Bret clearly did. I see no reason why Swagger couldn't develop into a credible heel main eventer once again. Only remain at that level on this go.
Right now with Swagger I think the forum's hivemind is in the skeptical stage. They're not sure whether or not it's cool to hop on the fandom train yet. Once they eventually do in a few months, he'll be booming on here. Then give it another 3 or 4 months and suddenly he's stale and the worst thing to ever happen to wrestling. It's the circle of life.



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People have bought into Del Rio as World Champ lickity split. I don't see a need for a double standard here.

@Brye - the backlash or boom for him is going to be cringeworthy no matter what. I guess the love train would be a bit more tolerable considering atm the loathing towards the man is highly questionable. At least the way Cal point it out has some clarity. That's why building him up right now is key.

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People have bought into Del Rio as champ? I'm gonna need a list of names and addresses. People need a SLAPPING.

I think its different with heels though. As a babyface Del Rio can pander to the crowd and overcome giant odds (Big Show) and the casuals think he's uber awesome and a great champ. Swagger needs a LOT more work to be credible in their eyes I think, regardless of how good he can actually be.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

To be fair, Swagger/Coulter already have a bunch of people in their 30's+ offended. As far as I'm concerned that's good heeling.



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Go read the posts on this place. It's Viva Del Rio right now.

It's why I mentioned the build atm. He's been on a tear since returning. Henry is getting the same booking although when he was last seen he was jobbing left and right. I know he's a beast, but point being it's not much of a stretch of difference if you set the tone for how the booking will be. It's all about how they choose to book Swagger from here on out. If well, it could work wonders for him possibly. If not, then it's back into obscurity for the Oakie. It's a simple enough scenario. I'm just not gonna rule it out yet b/c of the way the original went. He's getting a second chance. Shouldn't that earn a bit of praise for WWE trying to own up on a mistake and save a career?

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I have little faith in WWE a lot of the time so while they DO seem to be re-building Swagger atm... I'm not sure how long it will last . Hopefully as we continue to WM he gets to beat someone with... credibility. So far it's been losers like Ryder and Kofi. Bryan is the best he's had so far in a singles match. I'm still holding out a little though. WWE tend to get me into someone they just kill him dead randomly.
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