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Old 02-20-2013, 07:30 AM   #18871 (permalink)
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Gave a watch to No Mercy 07&08.

No Mercy 2007:

HHH/Orton I- **1/2
hardy&Kendrick&London/Cade/Murdoch/Kennedy- **
BDV-Punk- DUD
HHH/Umaga- **3/4
Mysterio/Finlay - ***
Candice/Beth-**
Batista/Khali- *3/4
HHH/Orton II- ***1/2

Thoughts: Solid show, not as good as the 06 one but still acceptabale. Wasn't really into the WWE Title series, but the main-event was pretty good.

No Mercy 2008:

Henry/Hardy- ***3/4
Candice/Beth- *
Mysterio/Kane- **1/4
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HBK/Jericho- ****1/2

thoughts: Great show here we had 4 great matches, and the main-event was the best HBK/Jericho match.
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Old 02-20-2013, 07:47 AM   #18872 (permalink)
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This.

LOL @ the Swagger hate from pretty much everywhere when he's proven himself to be a pretty great worker + his new persona and character W/ ZEB have been probably the most interesting thing in the WWE right now due to Rematch Mania sucking the life out of me.

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The Swagger hate is perfectly justified. He's terrible on the mic, the worst for a guy in his position. He's got a real goofy look and stupid facial expressions that make it hard to take the guy seriously. He's more interesting now only because of his new manager Zeb with the new gimmick. Notice how whenever Zeb talks it's interesting, it engages the crowd, he really gets people to boo him, Zeb's the perfect guy for the gimmick because he looks and talks the part, but Swagger ruins it whenever he talks. Zeb should talk 100% time, and Swagger 0%, and then he'll be more tolerable to me but I'll still have to put up with his goofy, cringeworthy self but at least I won't have to put up with him talking. And yes Swagger's good in the ring, but he needs much more than that to be a star, that's why he failed so hard in 2010 as World Champion, but with Zeb now covering up is great weaknesses (talking, taking him seriously) he can manage better.

Like most people on this forum, I dig the new character, I like Zeb, hell his new theme is an improvement, but I can't stand Swagger.
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I hope the build to the Lesnar/HHH is a little different this time around, i get that heels sometimes have to be 'cowardly heel', but come on this is BROCK LESNAR, instead of running away from HHH when he broke HBK's arm he should have F5'd Haitch, F5'd Steph, F5'd HBK for good measure, stood in the middle of the ring and shouted 'Don't fuck with me' , its BROCK FFS, still, probably will be the same this around tbh.

Although if we get Punk/Lesnar instead, ALLLLLLLL the better.
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Meh. Someone doesn't need mic skills to be a star. Another WWE philosophy I'll never buy into. If you got the goods in other outlets you'll be fine. And yes, case and point is always going to be Bret Hart or Chris Benoit. Is Jack Swagger on their level? Sure, why not. He's a really good wrestler. Can't talk a lick. Seems about fair company. Granted Benoit is the best of the bunch. Only he lacked a "pop" if you know what I mean.

This doesn't go into "successes" by the way. Let me throw that out there.
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Old 02-20-2013, 09:04 AM   #18875 (permalink)
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If Swagger can get on a roll in the ring like 08/09 then he could really be great with Zeb doing his talking too. But its not as easy when he has a bunch of different talent to work with. No Christian (though could happen, he's due back any time, right?), no Finlay, no Hardy etc. Excepted more from the Danielson match though. If that happened in ECW 09 it would have been a strong contender for MOTY you gotta believe.
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Everyone has to talk in modern day WWE. I don't get why they have this ideology.

People like Swagger , Ryback etc don't need to speak, yet they continue to let them.
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For the love of god Christian needs to come back now. Still wanting Christian/Cesaro again. Also, if Jericho was going to stay long time I'd have loved to see them bring back Jericho/Christian as a team for a bit.

And speaking of WCW midcard/jobbers, how about 3 COUNT?!
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Meh. Someone doesn't need mic skills to be a star. Another WWE philosophy I'll never buy into. If you got the goods in other outlets you'll be fine. And yes, case and point is always going to be Bret Hart or Chris Benoit. Is Jack Swagger on their level? Sure, why not. He's a really good wrestler. Can't talk a lick. Seems about fair company. Granted Benoit is the best of the bunch. Only he lacked a "pop" if you know what I mean.

This doesn't go into "successes" by the way. Let me throw that out there.
He's not though. Bret and Benoit were much better wrestlers and they were some of the best, if not the best, in the company at the time. Swagger's a good wrestler, but I don't think he would make my 10 of in-ring workers in the company right now. Benoit (not to sure on Bret) was at least passable on the mic, whereas Swagger is an abomination on it. Bad comparisons imo.

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After seeing what Swagger has been capable of, it was plenty fitting. Which is why I said it.

He's not nearly as bad as people make him out to be. Not a single bit.
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Swagger is very good in the ring, tbh. I think most people lost interest during his rut a couple years ago and forget all the awesome matches he had before that.
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