[TheWFEffect]

Must watch best qoute "Well yeaaaah my Mum was drunk and druggie but now she's all god fearing and a lesbian so we get along better now because I love beer and women too"

[Phil_Mc_90]

Really not hyped about Mania at all.

Rock/Cena/Punk does little for me because its still obvious Cena wins and beats all the odds.

Taker probably isnt competing which sucks. Taker/Brock or Taker/Punk would have been great.

Swagger/Del rio intrigues me slightly mostly because Ive always thought Swagger had a lot of upside. The Ziggler factor is also interesting.

Hopefully Shield do something awesome or something big happens to catch my attention

[Starbuck]

Shield are the best thing going right now and are the only thing that truly captivate me on WWE TV atm. Everything else seems to be plodding along while these guys are steam rolling ahead. I look forward to their match and hope that they go out there and kill it just like they have the last 3 times. I don't even mind if they don't go over. Somebody has to eventually beat them and Mania is the perfect place for them to finally get their comeuppance even if I'd rather they last a little longer as an undefeated monster group. Shield vs. some combination of Ryback/Seamus/somebody else works for me just fine.

Agreed in saying that it doesn't feel like Wrestlemania season. It really just doesn't and I have no idea why. Maybe it's because we're all waiting for the second bit match to get announced so that we'll finally know what's going to happen. I don't know. Something definitely just feels off about the whole thing though. It's a serious lack of general hype if you ask me.

[Choke2Death]

I admit I also feel completely indifferent. Last night was an awful start for the Road to WM to say the least. The entire show was shit except most of the final hour. (and Mizark dancing 2 da beat!)

Even though ROCK is such a rarity, I think Cena is the best option for him. BROCK should face Taker. But unfortunately, they have to find a place to fit Punk in the main event matches and that fucks it up. They also need to kill this 3 hours crap. I've watched 3 Raw shows live since the move (1000 included) and two of them have been absolutely exhausting and painful to sit through.

All this potential sadly seems to be wasted away. Mark Henry vs Khali better not happen, a triple threat main event blows (I do love seeing it get ripped to shreds by getting compared to the GOAT triple threat should it happen, though) and Taker vs Brock looks less and less likely to happen. And who can forget Jack Thwagger being in a title match after spending over a year jobbing and then taking a 6 month absence.

The product is falling apart and I shudder to think how bad it'll be when Taker/ROCK/BORK are not here to bring some interest. Maybe I should stick to watching the old stuff and completely no-sell the present. Worked like a charm last 6 months of 2012 when the product reached an all time low.

[SmokeAndMirrors]

When you look at it there is a lot of stuff outside the main storylines that are sweet. Henry, Jericho, Shield, Zeb and Jack etc. If they had some appealing main events to go alongside it all then I could get pretty pumped.

[The Lady Killer]

It's because both title matches are a bit underwhelming. One, albeit involving two of the biggest stars in the history of the company, is a rematch from last year. The other involves a lukewarm babyface and a dude who was jobbing to Santino a few months ago.

[ShowStopper '97]

When Swagger is one of the very few "good" aspects of the product, you know there is a problem.

[Saint Dick]

Elimination Chamber 2013

Del Rio v Show: good opener. I'm a fan of their series. Don't think any of the matches were truly great but they were all good. This was fun from start to finish, shame about Del Rio blowing the enziguiri bucket spot. Gotta agree with WOOLCOCK about Del Rio's dive looking great and more impactful than anybody's version of the move.

Cesaro v Miz: saw some people say they skipped the match because Miz was in it. Also seen low ratings for it. I would recommend watching or re-watching it because this was good. Best Miz performance and match in ages. Thought there was a lot to like about this. Cesaro's arm work was good, Miz sold well, and some of the counters and sequences were really smooth. If this was a complete match without a screwy finish (which was creative btw) I would pimp it. Wouldn't have a problem with them having their blow off match at Mania.

Chamber: I honestly can't say I liked this. I wouldn't call it bad but apart from Mark Henry ruling planet earth it struggled to hold my attention. Agreed w/what Yeah1993, WOOLCOCK and HayleySabin have said basically. Nothing special at all and I don't want to watch it again.

Super Friends v Shield: easily the MOTN. Gotta give WWE credit where it's due and they deserve a ton of credit for the way they've handled The Shield so far. They've protected them and booked them so well and due to that and their talent it's a novelty to watch them work right now. The heat segment on Cena leading to Ryback's hot tag was just about perfect. Lots of neat cut offs and teamwork from The Shield. They're starting to overuse the barricade spot but it was great here. Great match.

Ziggler v Kingston: holy shit at Dolph's flip bump. They did some cool stuff and Ziggler got a win.

Kaitlyn v Tamina: skipped it.

Rock v Punk: bleh. Punk tried his best, Rock sucks, the finishing stretch was bullshit. Don't even want to talk about this match. Decent at best.

Solid show. Nothing was really bad but I expected more from the chamber match. The 6 man tag is the best match I've seen this year. Gotta re-watch the 6 man from Raw last night, that's probably number 2. BELIEVE IN THE SHIELD

[Jack Evans 187]

^^^ Agree on the Del Rio/Show, Cesaro/Miz. & Dolph/Kofi portions. Cesaro/Miz can really have something great with 15 minutes or so with the limbwork we got from that match.

A few random thoughts on current discussions:

- Anyone discussing the best 6 minute match you'll ever see, I highly disagree on Rey/Punk from Mania & certainly on the Jericho/Bryan discussion from a few days ago. You're gonna have to branch away from WWE to find the best 6 minute match I've ever seen. It's Roderick Strong vs. Erick Stevens vs. Go Shiozaki for the FIP World Title from ROH's A New Level. The amount of shit they packed into 6 minutes is just unreal. *** 1/2 star match.

- Agree on so many thing you guys have said on Mania. It doesn't feel like it's Mania season AT ALL and if we get Rock/Cena & Brock/HHH rematches, I may honestly not even bother watching the show. Not to mention if Bryan/Kane actually happens and as fresh and random as Del Rio/Swagger is, it's nowhere near Wrestlemania level, but I know that's still up in the air. I really think it's time for Rock & Hunter to step aside so the new blood can shine. Bryan so deserves to be in a big time match, it's not even funny. Cesaro can deliver the goods big time and even guys like Big Show & Mark Henry have shown with their work ethic they can still go & give us something really enjoyable in 10-15 minutes. I just hope they turn my opinion around in a few weeks, cause Elimination Chamber had me really excited and the matches I thought would deliver, did.

- I'm one of the few that didn't think HHH/Cena from RAW '09 was all that great. I got really annoyed with the slowness and amount of finishers they had to use. Not a bad match (** 3/4) but their other two PPV encounters trump it big time.

- Question that I don't think has been asked/discussed: What's everyone's thoughts on the new WWE Title Rock unveiled? I actually like the simplicity and design & definitely think it was time to get rid of the old spinner belt. I think it'll be around a while.

[SmokeAndMirrors]

Originally Posted by ShowStopper '97

When Swagger is one of the very few "good" aspects of the product, you know there is a problem.

Well to be fair Zeb Coulter is the one making me somewhat interested. Swagger shouldn't speak and stick to wrestling only.