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Old 02-16-2013, 08:24 PM   #18261 (permalink)
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Charisma probably is the strangest attribute any wrestler can possess. It's so wildly different from performer to performer, and it's something that's really hard to pin-point, yet it is something that can be developed. Although it's not something that everyone can develop. Some people are born with it and others never find it.

A guy like Lance Storm probably never stood a chance (and even then, I'd argue that he had his moments), yet Benoit steadily developed it over the years. Mark Henry always had some, but it wasn't until his run in '11 that it truly became apparent how charismatic he could be. Eddie always had it but around '97 he started overflowing with charisma. Bryan has become more charismatic in the past couple of years than I thought possible. Punk had it right from the off. While Rock is the obvious go-to example at the moment.

Is it movement, speech pattern, look, talent, presentation, booking, work-ethic, reputation, legacy, a combination of them all or something completely different? I'll be damned if I know.
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Old 02-16-2013, 08:49 PM   #18262 (permalink)
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I seem to have missed the Benoit/Guerrero discussion, but I'd like just like to throw this out there.

I think Benoit has had far, far more memorable matches than Eddie. Eddie has the edge on Benoit in terms of mic work, but I think Benoit blows him out of the water if you're referring to a pure in-ring standpoint.

Top 10 Matches of Chris Benoit (WWE Only):

vs. HBK vs. HHH Wrestlemania XX - *****
vs. Austin Smackdown 2001 - ****3/4
vs. HBK vs. HHH Backlash 2004 - ****3/4
vs. Angle Royal Rumble 2003 - ****3/4
vs. Orton Summerslam 2004 - ****1/2
TLC III - ****1/2
Royal Rumble 2004 - ****1/2
w/ Angle vs. Edge and Mysterio No Mercy 2002 - ****1/4
vs. The Rock Fully Loaded 2000 - ****1/4
w/ Jericho vs. HHH and Austin Raw 2001 ****1/4

I would have included MITB I on this list, but since it was a multi-man match and wasn't the winner, I didn't. Either way, ****1/2. Probably forgetting a couple of matches, and no, Jericho/Benoit Royal Rumble 2001 is NOT one of them.
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How isn't Benoit vs Jericho one of them? That's one of the matches that should be listed if trying to prove Benoit had any sort of edge over Eddie.

I'd take Guerrero vs Mysterio from May of 2005 over most those matches as it is.
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Eddie's heel turn is one of the best ever. The beating on Rey where the mask was half ripped and Rey's bloody face was half visible and DAT legendary promo explaining his actions... just awesome! DAMMIT, why did Eddie (& Benoit) have to go so soon?

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How isn't Benoit vs Jericho one of them? That's one of the matches that should be listed if trying to prove Benoit had any sort of edge over Eddie.

I'd take Guerrero vs Mysterio from May of 2005 over most those matches as it is.
Do you mean June? (23/06/05) If it's May, then you would have to be talking about their Judgment Day match.

And yeah, Jericho/Benoit should be among every list when talking about greatest matches of all time.
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I really never cared for Benoit much. Eddie on the other hand was just
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Duh, Cody. June. What the hell was I thinking?

Jericho vs Benoit is the best ladder match pumped out by WWF/WWE. So it's easily in the mix for "great match discussions".
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I really enjoyed Austin/HHH vs Jericho/Benoit
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Been about a decade since I last saw that, tbhayley.
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