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Old 02-16-2013, 03:00 PM   #18181 (permalink)
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The only time i've ever thought the streak is over is when Orton reversed a choke slam into an RKO beautifully at WM 21. I legitimately thought it was all done then.
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That was due to The Streak not being THAT big at this point but coming into it's own, and Orton having the perfect gimmick/story arc to break the streak. Even though Orton didn't break The Streak, I believe that the feud with Undertaker was his true "break out" feud where he finally came into his own and became a great character and a great all around performer.

It's a shame that his career has been so disappointing in it's latter stages, considering how great he was in 2005-2006.
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I'd say that Orton definitely peaked a character in '06, probably '07. I did enjoy his 2010 babyface run though. There's no denying he was arguably the most over babyface in the company. DAT POP! His 2004 is when it all began though. One of the best midcard years a guy can ask for.

And oh God, it looks like it's time for the weekly "What the hell happened to Orton" discussion
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That was due to The Streak not being THAT big at this point but coming into it's own, and Orton having the perfect gimmick/story arc to break the streak. Even though Orton didn't break The Streak, I believe that the feud with Undertaker was his true "break out" feud where he finally came into his own and became a great character and a great all around performer.
It's another example of guys looking better and some actually becoming better after working a program with The Undertaker. I completely agree with your assessment of Orton in that 2005 feud with The Undertaker. Goodness knows RKO needed it after the Triple H program set him back a bit imo. Orton was still evolving (no pun) at the point so it helps greatly that he got to work a long program with Undertaker for most of that year in the spring, fall, summer AND winter.

I also believe that Batista came out of his program with Taker a better performer. He really stepped his game up in that series of matches. I'd say the most consistent and best performances of his career are with Taker in 2007.
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I'd say that Orton definitely peaked a character in '06, probably '07. I did enjoy his 2010 babyface run though. There's no denying he was arguably the most over babyface in the company. DAT POP! His 2004 is when it all began though. One of the best midcard years a guy can ask for.

And oh God, it looks like it's time for the weekly "What the hell happened to Orton" discussion




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When i think 2007, I think John Cena. Best worker of the year if you ask me. Not just in the ring but on the mic too.
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Nobody was close to Cena in 2007 and he spent the bulk of May through December either injured or in shitty feuds with Khali.
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I think Cena was FANTASTIC in 2007 but I find it hard to give him MOTY when Shawn Michaels was fuckng BALLIN' throughout most of it. Coming from somebody who just watched their Mania match I can tell you that Shawn's performance in that match is one of the best performances I have ever seen from him, which is covering ALOT of fucking ground. Then you have the DX-Rated RKO tag, his EPIC RUMBLE FINISH against Undertaker, NWO 07 tag, Backlash 2007 four way, and of course his series of matches with Orton including the epic Survivor Series bout.

I don't know.... I just really, REALLY fucking adored Shawn's performance in that Wrestlemania match, that was something special that you don't see too often.

In regards to Undertaker, I think he's elevated whoever he's been with over the last few years to a new level TBH. Starting with Orton, then in 2006 he tried to get Kennedy over HARD and succeeded but Kennedy fucked it up, 2007 it was Batista (who actually WON the feud in the end believe it or not), 2008 it was Edge, 2009 he TRIED with Punk but something wasn't clicking... He's been a part timer ever since.

Makes me optimistic that if Punk-Taker actually happens at Wrestlemania than it could be a build for the ages. Punk is the undisputed best all around talent the company has at this point (IMO of course) with his promo work being at the highest point it's ever been, and with his current character arc it only makes sense for him to try and end the Streak on the grandest stage of them all. I don't LIKE the idea that Punk deserves a main event and isn't getting one, but I'm 99 percent sure that he'll get a Wrestlemaia main event before his career is over.

Getting THE STREAK at this point when Taker has limited matches left in his career shows one thing and one thing only ; that you've become elevated to a whole new level. If Punk gets a STREAK match than it just shows how far he has come in terms of status with the company.
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Undertaker is my WOTY for 07. RR win, NWO tag, WM then the entire series with Batista, some great TV matches throughout all of this too, and then the end of the year started the Edge feud too. Shame he got injured in the middle.

Cena is #2 for sure though. NWO tag, WM and Raw with HBK, BL 4 way, getting something slightly better than shit out of Khali, then he got injured too.
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Undertaker is my WOTY for 07. RR win, NWO tag, WM then the entire series with Batista, some great TV matches throughout all of this too, and then the end of the year started the Edge feud too. Shame he got injured in the middle.

Cena is #2 for sure though. NWO tag, WM and Raw with HBK, BL 4 way, getting something slightly better than shit out of Khali, then he got injured too.
No love for Cena/Umaga from Rumble? I think they had a good Raw match too.

EDIT - Umaga had a really good match with Hardy on Raw and with Cena at the other January PPV. Forgot they had that show.
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I don't know.... I just really, REALLY fucking adored Shawn's performance in that Wrestlemania match, that was something special that you don't see too often.


During the final stretch of the match when Shawn is crawling across the ring to put his arm on Cena for the pin fall was a mark out moment for me. The look of pain and desperation to win the title one final time was brilliant. Also brilliant in that match was the piledriver on steel steps and the counter-wrestling at the end with the near falls. Love this match.
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