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Old 04-30-2012, 04:31 AM   #1771 (permalink)
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Lesnar/Cena MOTY so far.
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Old 04-30-2012, 05:29 AM   #1772 (permalink)
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I haven't seen the show yet but looking forward to it from recent ratings here. I saw the opener, was around **1/4 mark, nothing amazing just very generic.

I don't understand though why Cena won, to me it doesn't make any sense. Really confusing.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:09 AM   #1773 (permalink)
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Lesnar/Cena was fucking batshit insane, INSANE, and I loved every second. What an outright fucking fight. I don't think I've ever seen anything like that in a WWE ring in my life. Ignoring the finish for a second, Lesnar looked like a fucking killer. Jesus Christ! I can't to watch it again when I get home. Jericho/Punk was awesome too, as was Bryan/Seamus. The undercard matches were a lot of fun also. Really great PPV and again, that main event was kickass.

On the HHH in 00 vs. 02/03 note, come on Obis lol.
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Old 04-30-2012, 06:17 AM   #1774 (permalink)
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Ha its getting a lot of praise. Where da Cena haters at? Can't wait to watch the show.
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It deserves all the praise it's getting. Actually felt quite surreal tbh. I've honestly never seen anything like it. Lesnar said he wanted to create utter fricking chaos? That's exactly what it was. Fucking mental match and I'm seriously so excited to get home and watch it again lol. Jericho/Punk and DB/Seamus were both awesome matches but I have to put Lesnar/Cena as MOTN for the simple fact that it was legitimately something I've never seen before. Awesome match.
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Extreme Rules 2012 Thoughts

Cena/Brock was something else. Fucking brutal. Cena picks up the win, but it doesn't hurt Lesnar's momentum in the slightest. Lesnar destroyed Cena and Cena only won by taking advantage of Lesnar's mistakes. Well-booked and well-executed match that just manages to take over Jericho/Punk from WrestleMania as my WWE MOTY. ****1/4

I can't say I was a fan of the dragged out brawl that was Jericho/Punk. It was good at times, like during Punk's comebacks and Jericho just generating an insane amount from the smark-heavy crowd. I'm quite a fan of both men and add on top of that the hot Chi-Town crowd, this looks to be a recipe for a classic. ***1/4

Before the DQ first fall, I was loving every minute of Bryan/Sheamus. However, after Sheamus passing out rather than tapping, it made me realize how little chance that Bryan has. I know he didn't have much of a chance anyways, but it's their job to make me believe otherwise. ***3/4

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Kane/Orton: ***3/4
Show/Cody: **1/2
Ziggler/Clay: **
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After last night my MOTY list is as follows:

HHH/Taker, Mania 28
Lesnar/Cena, ER
Punk/Jericho, ER
Rock/Cena, Mania 28
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Lesnar/Cena takes a dump on anything this year. So ahead of anything, not even the quality of the match, just the way it was done. I don't think this match given the circumstances could have been done any better. I thought this match would be the first of a 3 part trilogy but this match right here pretty much wrapped it up in one amazing ball.

I need to rewatch Jericho/Punk and DB/Sheamus.
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Kane vs Orton - ** - A bit boring really, just a drawn out brawl through the crowd which only got interesting (for the wrong reasons) when they went to the back. lol at Ryder's interference and the cameraman going arse over tit!

Brodus Clay vs Dolph Ziggler - DUD - Pointless match and a complete waste of time/filler.

Cody Rhodes vs Big Show - **1/2 - A decent match involving Show, he has been overdue one to be fair. The ending was very clever, a fun match overall. Cody is impressing me more and more with his adaptability.

Sheamus vs Daniel Bryan - **** - Brilliant match that should have happened at WrestleMania, this had it all, smooth technical exchanges, solid storytelling and actual ring psychology from Bryan when targeting Sheamus' shoulder. A really good effort overall. The crowd was very vocal for Bryan which made it even more entertaining.

Ryback vs Jobber team - * - Maybe a bit generous but atleast this entertained me, from the pre match promo all the way to the Goldberg chants. Ryback looked quite impressive in there, although he was up against guys that weigh less than first year high school children.

CM Punk vs Jericho - *** - This was okay but lacked a little bit of pizzaz, having said that both men were quite ceative when implementing the announce table covers into the match. It felt like it dragged during the middle, the crowd was carrying this at times.

Layla vs Nikki Bella - DUD - Dissapointed Kharma didn't return to be honest, typical Diva's match, ot given enough time regardless of the quality of workers involved.

John Cena vs Brock Lesnar - ****1/2 - Unbelievable match that had me completely suspend my disbelief until the last minute where Cena made his normal superman comeback. Full credit to both men for putting on a hell of a match, Lesnar completely controlled the crowd while Cena was excellent in his selling until the ending sequence where he miraculously shook off the previous twenty five minutes beatings! Absolute gore fest, something that is rarely seen in WWE these days. I don't want to ever read people saying that Cena can't work on here again, the guy has had three bordeline classics in less than a year. The only criticism of Cena that I have relating to his ring performances is down to his character, can't blame him if Vince wants him to be superman.

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Before the DQ first fall, I was loving every minute of Bryan/Sheamus. However, after Sheamus passing out rather than tapping, it made me realize how little chance that Bryan has. I know he didn't have much of a chance anyways, but it's their job to make me believe otherwise. ***3/4.
Vince was never going to have his new babyface pet project tap out, important faces don't do that, wrestling 101 etc...
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I take your point about him having good opponents in 2000 but when you consider that Foley, Jericho and Rock, who all have a great collection of matches, had some of the best matches of their careers against HHH it speaks volumes about how good he was that year. Even great workers have average matches with good opponents sometimes, HHH delivered in a big way all year long.
(Not quoting Razor's post, but this is addressed at him as well)

He was an excellent worker that year no doubt and I'm not denying it. I just brought up the fact his list of opponents at every PPV were perfect for him in some light or another because of people bringing up how bad his opponents were in 2003. Figure I'd work it the other way around.

But yeah, in 2000 the stars were aligned perfectly for HHH to produce classics at every PPV between his own personal level of in ring work and his opponents, while 2003 was the complete opposite and you got what you got there.

On the record though, the times I felt HHH's match at a PPV weren't stellar or on the level of his other matches was when he was facing Angle. Summerslam 00, though Angle was off his game and not a part of the whole match due to a concussion, I didn't feel that was any more than a good match. The match against Angle at Unforgiven was a good match as well but forgettable, and at Royal Rumble, while a great match, I wouldn't go over ***3/4 for it. I never felt HHH meshed well with Angle. Of course, then there's his match against Austin at SS which wasn't good, but I don't think was ever supposed to be with how they built it up, so that gets a pass. The WM main event was a good Fatal Four Way, but nothing extraordinary.

But any other match from 2000-2001, unless I'm forgetting something, for HHH on PPV could be argued as a classic.
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