[greendayedgehead]

Originally Posted by KingOfKings

Feeling like heating up some discussion before MANIA' SEASON officially starts, so let's throw some comparisons out shall we ? From a pure work standpoint, who (opinion obviously) is the better worker (currently of course) of these groupings ?

A : CM Punk or Daniel Bryan
B : John Cena or Sheamus
C : Randy Orton or Dolph Ziggler
D : Mark Henry or The Big Show
E : Alberto Del Rio or Kane
F : Antonio Cesaro or Wade Barrett
G : Ryback or The Miz (FOR DA LOLZ)

Interesting.

Purely IMO,

Bryan, Cena, Ziggler, don't know, Del Rio, Cesaro, Ryback.

Originally Posted by Daniel97

Ratings on the never ending Sheamus/Del Rio feud please. I seem to recall a few decent PPV matches.

Eh, that was a worthless feud. Around two stars seems right, I wouldn't be able to tell you a lick about these matches though. Except for that they were incredibly boring.

On Rock/Cena II, I hope they can learn from their first encounter and give us a better match. Also wish the same for Punk/Rock II.

[Gamblor]

Yeah I'm clinging to that last glimmer of hope, because as of one week from now we should know EXACTLY what we're getting @ Mania. Still think WWE is going to pull some sort of swerve to one of the "planned" matches but that's just optimism at this point.

The positive of Rock/Cena II is that Rock is FINALLY going to put somebody over after he has pretty much beaten everybody that there is to beat in the industry... Actually wait... The ultimate swerve ; Punk wins back the title and we get Punk/Cena and Rock/Taker because Rock needs the streak to validate himself as the undisputed GOAT, it makes a ton of sense when you think about it

AHHH the desperate thoughts of somebody who wants unpredictability.

Taker/Rock, and Punk/Cena for the title would be very interesting, but how would they pull it off? Rock going into a streak match losing clean to Punk wouldn't look to good. Punk would have to beat Rock in some unclean fashion. They could have Taker cost Rock the belt, but that might end up turning Taker heel or tweener at the least, and while I don't have too much of a problem with Taker being heel, you have to wonder how the fans would react to him beating Rock at Mania. The Mania crowd may still cheer him and he wrestles like he would as a face, but only during the build up he's a heel. Or Punk wins in dirty fashion, Rock gets one and only one title rematch on Raw, and he has Punk beat, but somehow Punk still escapes with the title (I'm thinking something like Edge/Batista Vengeance 2007). Rock then moves onto Taker the next week he's there.

Meh, I'm speculating too much over something that isn't going to happen.

Edit: Although I wonder, if this did happen, if we'd ever have to hear Cena go on a stupid tirade against Punk saying "YOU COST THESE FANS THE ROCK VS. JOHN CENA II, YOU'RE A BASTARD"blahblahblah.

[ATF]

Originally Posted by Daniel97

Ratings on the never ending Sheamus/Del Rio feud please. I seem to recall a few decent PPV matches.

MITB - **3/4
SSlam - ***
NOC - ***1/2

Ratings for all of HAITCH HAITCH HAITCH's WM matches?

[Choke2Death]

Originally Posted by KingOfKings

Yeah I'm clinging to that last glimmer of hope, because as of one week from now we should know EXACTLY what we're getting @ Mania. Still think WWE is going to pull some sort of swerve to one of the "planned" matches but that's just optimism at this point.

The positive of Rock/Cena II is that Rock is FINALLY going to put somebody over after he has pretty much beaten everybody that there is to beat in the industry... Actually wait... The ultimate swerve ; Punk wins back the title and we get Punk/Cena and Rock/Taker because Rock needs the streak to validate himself as the undisputed GOAT, it makes a ton of sense when you think about it

AHHH the desperate thoughts of somebody who wants unpredictability.

That's just your wishful thinking like how Punk beating ROCK at the Royal Rumble UNhappened.

You, my friend, would be a terrible booker.

EDIT: HunterMania

vs Ultimate Warrior - WM12 - 0 (don't hate him to rate it highly)
Fatal Four Way - WM2000 - ★★★½
vs Undertaker - WM17 - ★★★¾
vs Jericho - WM18 - ★★¼
vs Booker - WM19 - ★★★¼
vs Benoit vs HBK - WM20 - ★★★★★
vs Batista - WM21 - ★★★
vs Cena - WM22 - ★★★★
vs Orton vs Cena - WM24 - ★★★¾
vs Orton - WM25 - ★★¼
vs Sheamus - WM26 - ★★¾
vs Undertaker - WM27 - ★★★¾
vs Undertaker - WM28 - ★★★★½

[Gamblor]

HHH's Mania matches:

vs. Rock vs. Foley vs. Big Show WM16- ***1/2
vs. Undertaker WM17- ****
vs. Jericho WM18- **3/4
vs. Booker T WM19- ***1/2 (his second best match all year imo)
vs. Benoit vs. HBK WM20- ****1/2
vs. Batista WM21- **
vs. Cena WM22- ***
vs. Cena vs. Orton WM24- ***3/4
vs. Orton WM25- **1/2
vs. Sheamus WM26- ***1/4
vs. Undertaker WM27- ***1/2
vs. Undertaker WM28- ****

Edit: vs. Warrior WM12- ***********

[Big Z]

HHH WM:

Vs Warrior WM 12 - DUD
Vs Goldust WM 13 - Haven't seen it in years
Vs Owen WM 14 - ***1/2
Vs Kane WM 15 - **1/2
Vs Show Vs Foley Vs Rock WM 16 - ****
Vs Undertaker WM 17 - ****1/4
Vs Jericho WM 18 - **3/4
Vs Booker WM 19 - ****
Vs Benoit Vs HBK WM 20 - ****3/4
Vs Batista WM 21 - **3/4
Vs Cena WM 22 - ****
Vs Cena Vs Orton WM 24 - ***1/4
Vs Orton WM 25 - **
Vs Sheamus WM 26 - **3/4
Vs Undertaker WM 27 - ****3/4
Vs Undertaker WM 28 - ****3/4

[Saint Dick]

HHH/Cena WM22

[NearFall]

WrestleMania XV
vs Kane **1/2
WrestleMania XVI
vs Rock vs Foley vs Big Show ***1/4
WrestleMania X-Seven
vs Undertaker ***3/4
WrestleMania X-8
vs Jericho **1/2
WrestleMania XIX
vs Booker T ***1/4
WrestleMania XX
vs Chris Benoit vs Shawn Michaels *****
WrestleMania XXI
vs Batista ***
WrestleMania XXII
vs John Cena *** 3/4
WrestleMania XXIV
vs Cena vs Orton ****
WrestleMania XV
vs Orton ***
WrestleMania XVI
vs Sheamus ***
WrestleMania XVII
vs Undertaker ***3/4
WrestleMania XVIII
vs Undertaker *****

[RatedR10]

Triple H 'Mania matches that I watched:

WrestleMania X7 - Triple H vs. The Undertaker (****1/4)
WrestleMania 18 - Triple H vs. Chris Jericho (**3/4)
WrestleMania 19 - Triple H vs. Booker T (***1/4)
WrestleMania 20 - Triple H vs. Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels (*****)
WrestleMania 21 - Triple H vs. Batista (***1/4)
WrestleMania 22 - Triple H vs. John Cena (****)
WrestleMania 24 - Triple H vs. Randy Orton vs. John Cena (***1/2)
WrestleMania 26 - Triple H vs. Sheamus (***)
WrestleMania 27 - Triple H vs. The Undertaker (***3/4)
WrestleMania 28 - Triple H vs. The Undertaker (****3/4)

Never watched vs. Warrior, I'd have to rewatch WrestleMania 2000 for his four way match and I wasn't watching the product at the time to see HHH/Orton, but I heard it was a let down and similar to HHH/Jericho from 18.

Originally Posted by greendayedgehead

On Rock/Cena II, I hope they can learn from their first encounter and give us a better match. Also wish the same for Punk/Rock II.

I hope they learn with Cena/Rock II and give them less time. The restholds brought down the match IMO. If it was 10 minutes shorter with less restholds, I would have enjoyed the match much more.

[ATF]

My ratings on DA GAME WM:

WM 12 vs Warrior: DUD
WM 13 vs Goldust: **1/4
WM 14 vs Owen: ***3/4
WM 15 vs Kane: **1/2
WM 16 vs Rock vs Foley vs Show: ***1/4
WM 17 vs Taker: ****1/4
WM 18 vs Jericho: **3/4
WM 19 vs Booker: ***
WM 20 vs HBK vs Benoit: *****
WM 21 vs Batista: ***
WM 22 vs Cena: ***3/4
WM 24 vs Orton vs Cena: ***1/2
WM 25 vs Orton: **1/4
WM 26 vs Sheamus: ***1/4
WM 27 vs Taker: ****1/2
WM 28 vs Taker: *****

Now doing the TAKER portion of my 2000-2012 project