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Fuck it, I'll do an ECW 2009 Project instead of just a Christian ECW 2009 project!

Jack Swagger Vs Finlay - ECW 06/01/2009

Well, this is an awesome way to start things off! First ECW show of 09, first match too! Knew they had one in Feb and then NWO, but ANOTHER TV match? Sweeeet. Main event is Hardy Vs Henry too .

we see a Jeff Hardy fan (little kid, dressed like him) dancing like Hardy does when he comes out to the ring... to Finlay's babyface music. LOL. For some reason Finlay has an inflatable hammer with him that he throws into the crowd. Ok.

They go to the mat in the early going, as Swagger is the "wrestler" and Finlay can go to the mat with pretty much anyone anyway. Finlay despite being face still tries to grab the nose and hair of Swagger to break holds, and when he gets the chance on offence he has no problem hitting a stiff elbow and shit just for the hell of it. Hornswoggle gets smashed face first into the barricade. I smiled .

Swagger works over the arm of Finlay, and well it's a little dull tbh. He tends to sit in the hold rather than work it for the most part. Every now and then he'll crank on it but not nearly enough for my liking. At least Swagger keeps going to the arm any time Finlay attempts a comeback and Finlay sells it really well, so even if some of the arm work is a little boring, they still work it into the match really well so it's not a waste of time or anything.

Gutwrench Powerbomb and the #1 contender for the ECW title picks up another win. Good stuff. Could have been better, but even the slightly dull arm work doesn't bring it down too much thanks to everything else around it.

Rating: ***

Matt Hardy Vs Mark Henry - ECW 06/01/2009

How awesome is Henry's theme? SUMBODY GUNNA GET THEY ASS KICKED. SUMBODY GUNNA GET THEY WIG SPLIT. BEAT EM UP BEAT EM UP BREAK HIS NECK BREAK HIS NECK.

Henry dominates from the start, but on the outside Hardy is able to send Henry knees first into the steel steps, then take advantage in the ring with a little bit of leg work before Henry powers his way back in control. I seem to recall leg work being a big part of their great PPV match the previous year, right? I should check that out at some point, been ages since I saw it.

Henry sells the great great while on offence, even though Hardy hadn't done anything to it for a while. No short term selling from the WWE's Strongest Man (this was 2008... so WSM will have been... Mariusz Pudzianowski, with Big Z the Arnold Strongman winner for like the billionth time in a row. Henry would have NEVER won the 2002 competition had Big Z and any other credible strongmen been involved. What was I talking about?)

Henry is fine on offence, nothing overly special as he has a habit of sitting in a nerve grip hold, but he dishes out some goodness any time he's cutting Matt Hardy off. And he's STILL selling the leg which is awesome, and Matt every now and then sees a chance to hit it even if it doesn't get him back on top.

Nice little finishing stretch, and Henry loses clean to a Twist of Fate! Well, Matt IS the champion afterall! Good match, plenty to like.

Rating: ***1/4





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Looking forward to reading your thoughts on that match.

And yes, you're absolutely right about Regal/Burchill. I have a hard time understanding why WWE love embarrassing Regal so damn often.
Sweet. My use of knowing all the random facts about wrestling hold up. As for Regal...idk. Maybe b/c he's open to the goofy shenanigans? I think that's part of it. Funny to how they make him look like a goof in some moments, but it never feels as if it's embarrassing. Only the "all in good fun" sort of context. Regal's rap on R-Truth from Superstars in 2010 was brilliant, for example.

@ Cal - ECW 2009 OWNS. I loved the Swagger vs Finlay match. ***1/2 for me. The 2/3 match I mentioned is even better, imo.

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I miss Pirate Burchill . Awesome gimmick and he actually made it work. Facing Regal and winning, forcing Regal to dress as a "wench" was awesome . I truly believe Regal loves doing that sort of thing. He's got a very classic English sense of humour and he loves Panto and shit like that so making a complete arse of himself is a sort of tradition for him lol.

Watching Swagger/Hardy ECW title match .
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Matt Hardy Vs Jack Swagger - ECW Title Match - ECW 13/01/2009

I'm a fan of their RR match, hoping this is at least as good. Don't see why it wouldn't be!

Real BIG MATCH feel to this one which I fucking love. Crowd are awesome, Swagger and Hardy both look confident and focused during the introductions which adds to it too, and yeah, this is really good. Swagger looks great from the get go just charging at Matt and taking the match straight to the mat where he's strongest, and unlike last week with Finlay, Hardy can't hang with him there. Hardy fires back though (and the crowd go nuts), and then Swagger clotheslines him off the apron in a real sweet cut off spot.

Swagger seems to have improved immensely since just LAST WEEK. Being there with Finlay no doubt helped a ton, and I wouldn't be surprised if Finlay went over shit afterwards to give him pointers. Swagger is more vicious here, which really puts over how much he wants the title, and how different a title match is compared to a non title match. He's going the extra mile here.

Hardy needs to be pimped too, because he's a great babyface and can take one hell of a beating. Great selling of the arm, something Swagger would really perfect over just the next few weeks. I definitely get why people were throwing Angle's name at him early on, as he really came in as a rookie, but with a great amateur record, and then every week you can literally see him improving, which is exactly like Angle. How he was in Jan of 2000 was completely different by Dec 2000. Swagger was doing the exact same until they fucked him up.

Awesome spot with Hardy escaping a superplex attempt into a sunset flip powerbomb, but Swagger tries to hold on to the turnbuckle pad. Hardy fights for it and hits the move, but the pad comes off, leaving the turnbuckle exposed. And of course, it comes into play for the finish. Love when little things like that pay off. Matt goes face first into it, then a Gutwrench Powerbomb later we have a NEW ECW Champion!

So yeah, this is great. GREAT. Swagger is impressive as hell. Hardy is awesome too. Great finishing stretch, and I do love the turnbuckle coming into play. Current ECW MOTY, but I already know its gonna be knocked down in a little over a month lol.

Rating: ****
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Top 10 Smackdown TV matches of all time in your opinion guys? Would also like to hear your opinions on the top 10 ECW (wwe one) matches of all time, PPV and tv matches included.

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Bought 4 PPV's from Silvervision today. Got both Edge DVD's (A Decade of Decadence, You Think You Know Me The Story of Edge) which I was meaning to get for a while, CM Punk's best in the world DVD which I've wanted to get since I saw the documentary, and WrestleMania 24 because it gets a lot of praise on here. And because I wanted to own HBK/Flair.

£30 for the lot.


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Bought 4 PPV's from Silvervision today. Got both Edge DVD's (A Decade of Decadence, You Think You Know Me The Story of Edge) which I was meaning to get for a while, CM Punk's best in the world DVD which I've wanted to get since I saw the documentary, and WrestleMania 24 because it gets a lot of praise on here. And because I wanted to own HBK/Flair.

£30 for the lot.
Good choices there. Both Edge DVDs are really great. It helps having both since in Decade of Decadence Edge himself introduces the matches but he's in character, so it's kinda strange. But the other DVD balances this well and his story of his rise to the top is really interesting.
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New Years Revolution 2005
World Heavyweight Championship Elimination Chamber
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Edge vs. Triple H vs. Randy Orton vs. Batista vs. Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit


One of my favourite matches ever and the best Chamber match ever imo. The Evolution storyline heading in was just so compelling and even though I've watched it a million times, I still get suckered into the big moments. Trips in the sharpshooter/crossface combo while everybody is waiting for Batista to come in is just pure drama. What an awesome moment that still has me on the edge of my seat when I see it. Batista coming in and straight up wrecking everything around him only to lead to the big face to face between he and HHH is so well done. JR's commentary makes it even better. DO YOU WANNA BE WORLD CHAMPION? DO YOU WANNA BE THE MAN! Awesome, awesome, awesome. But everything up until Batista's entry is just as good. Jericho and Benoit in the beginning, Trips coming in and bumping like a crazy man all over the steel, Edge then Orton. It's just an enthralling match from start to finish. My only complaint is that the ending could have been sped up a little. I feel the Batista/HHH beat down on Orton went a little too long. Shave 2 minutes or so off and this is a perfect match.

****3/4 and GOAT Elimination Chamber Match

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Monday Night RAW 12/13/04


Edge vs Randy Orton ~ ****


Holy zombie jesus what a match. First I'll have to comment on how much I got a kick from the heel & face dynamic changing from the last RAW match. That alone gave the match a new wrinkle. Right from the git-go these guys are out of the blocks. Going fast. Totally different start compared to their previous '04 bouts. Counters aplenty. Orton takes the early lead here until one minor mistake was made, thanks to the cagey Edge, & the momentum was shifted in a flash. Yet again some more solid ground work in this bout. Neither man would be classified as "ring generals" in my books, but they're good. And capable of great matches. So they make it work what seems to be 9 times out of 10 when they duke it out. I LOVE how this match is nothing like their previous. Their last RAW encounter started off slower with Edge & Orton trying to outwit each other in how they were going to lead the match. In this one, as I stated, it starts off hot. But, as the progressive of the match rolls along, the more competitive this becomes. Very gritty. Orton fighting from his knees to come back, swinging from the heels. It's fabulous. He's getting the crowd emotionally involved here and it's pretty good. Another key element I dug was how the finishing stretch of this was paced more methodically and didn't try to rely on a blitzkrieg of moves on which the last one did. I seem as if I can't stress enough how much fun it is to see these guys work a completely different type of match compared to where they were once at. Favorite spot of the match came when Orton attempts an RKO, Edge counters into a backslide and puts his feet on the ropes for only a nearfall. Aka the finish of their Vengeance rematch back in July. CALLBACKS~! It made watching these matches in order all the more special. A moment like that would have been nothing but a simple nearfall. Catching the storytelling like that is wonderful. Following the callback spot, the match rages on with a few more nearfalls, some more counters and tons of excitement. I was going nuts for the RKO - counter - back into the RKO spot for the finish. I loved this match. If it wasn't for Vengeance being so excellent I'd have to say this was my favorite match between the two. Why isn't this on a DVD set yet?!

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Top 10 Smackdown TV matches of all time in your opinion guys? Would also like to hear your opinions on the top 10 ECW (wwe one) matches of all time, PPV and tv matches included.
Top 10 SD:

1 - Austin vs Benoit
2 - Angle vs Lesnar Iron Man
3 - Benoangle vs Edge & Rey 2 out of 3 Falls
4 - Eddie vs Rey May 05
5 - Rey vs Morrison
6 - Angle vs Taker 03
7 - TLC III
8 - Lesnar vs Benoit
9 - Angle vs Taker 06
10 - Edge vs Eddie No DQ

Top 10 ECW:

1 - Cena vs RVD ONS 06
2 - 6-Person Tag ONS 06
3 - Christian vs Swagger BL 09
4 - Christian vs Big Zeke Last ECW ever (underloved imo)
5 - Punk vs Morrison Last Chance
6 - Christian vs Swagger Feb 09
7 - Show vs Flair June 06
8 - Tanaka vs Awesome ONS 05
9 - RVD vs Hardcore Holly
10 - Matt H vs Swagger RR rematch



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