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Monday Night RAW 7/19/04


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Edge(c) vs Randy Orton ~ ***3/4


Pretty great match. Has quite a bit of neat intricacies in the early part. Edge's attempt to pick apart Orton's arm & better yet, Orton's transition into getting the momentum onto his side by driving Edge not off the ropes, but into the ropes was really slick. Barricade spot was good. Edge falling onto his head was not. That had to hurt. I liked how when it came back from the commercial break the match was Orton focusing the assault on Edge's head/neck area. A sustained period of that plays out, which was solid, then it leads into the HOT finishing stretch much like Vengeance had. Toss in a non-obnoxious ref bump, some good drama, and an interesting finish and you're left with one swell Intercontinental Championship match. Only flaw I had (and reason I didn't go to 4 stars with it) was Edge's injured neck never came into play later on. It made the solid work by Orton feel like nothing but filler till they got to the final portion of the match. Wished it would have lent itself into the story more. So, not to end this on a negative, but a positive - long story short - this rocked. Very fitting rematch from their classic on PPV.

btw C2D, this clocked in at around the 13 minute mark without a commercial break included.

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btw C2D, this clocked in at around the 13 minute mark without a commercial break included.
I stand corrected. Got it mixed up with their Vengeance match and remember it being kind of long, so that's where the confusion came from. Spot on review btw. Now it's time for the December match I guess?

On my SD experience: @ Regal dressing as a woman. Something entertaining after a boring lengthy Booker/Hardy match for the KOTR tournament.
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I think that was the original plan, but Orton did something?
I think they didn't want to put Edge in a singles match because Edge got injured in that MITB Qualifying Match with RVD legit kicking him in the jaw. I love the match Edge & Orton had the night after Backlash. It was heel vs. heel but Orton kind of became the face in the match before it was all said and done, especially after that bump he took off the ring apron into the announce table. That match was really all about heel match psychology and how they put it together at the pace they set made it something to behold.


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I stand corrected. Got it mixed up with their Vengeance match and remember it being kind of long, so that's where the confusion came from. Spot on review btw. Now it's time for the December match I guess?

On my SD experience: @ Regal dressing as a woman. Something entertaining after a boring lengthy Booker/Hardy match for the KOTR tournament.
Well, it was about 16 or so give or take with the commercial in tact. Perhaps that got int the way too. Yeah, I was thinking of working my way onto it right now actually. I can hold off on Kane vs Umaga from 9/16/06 for one more match.

Didn't Regal do that b/c of something with Burchill? If I'm way off, well, I won't be surprised. Most segments around that time I only saw once back when it aired.

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Fuck it, I'll do an ECW 2009 Project instead of just a Christian ECW 2009 project!

Jack Swagger Vs Finlay - ECW 06/01/2009

Well, this is an awesome way to start things off! First ECW show of 09, first match too! Knew they had one in Feb and then NWO, but ANOTHER TV match? Sweeeet. Main event is Hardy Vs Henry too .

we see a Jeff Hardy fan (little kid, dressed like him) dancing like Hardy does when he comes out to the ring... to Finlay's babyface music. LOL. For some reason Finlay has an inflatable hammer with him that he throws into the crowd. Ok.

They go to the mat in the early going, as Swagger is the "wrestler" and Finlay can go to the mat with pretty much anyone anyway. Finlay despite being face still tries to grab the nose and hair of Swagger to break holds, and when he gets the chance on offence he has no problem hitting a stiff elbow and shit just for the hell of it. Hornswoggle gets smashed face first into the barricade. I smiled .

Swagger works over the arm of Finlay, and well it's a little dull tbh. He tends to sit in the hold rather than work it for the most part. Every now and then he'll crank on it but not nearly enough for my liking. At least Swagger keeps going to the arm any time Finlay attempts a comeback and Finlay sells it really well, so even if some of the arm work is a little boring, they still work it into the match really well so it's not a waste of time or anything.

Gutwrench Powerbomb and the #1 contender for the ECW title picks up another win. Good stuff. Could have been better, but even the slightly dull arm work doesn't bring it down too much thanks to everything else around it.

Rating: ***

Matt Hardy Vs Mark Henry - ECW 06/01/2009

How awesome is Henry's theme? SUMBODY GUNNA GET THEY ASS KICKED. SUMBODY GUNNA GET THEY WIG SPLIT. BEAT EM UP BEAT EM UP BREAK HIS NECK BREAK HIS NECK.

Henry dominates from the start, but on the outside Hardy is able to send Henry knees first into the steel steps, then take advantage in the ring with a little bit of leg work before Henry powers his way back in control. I seem to recall leg work being a big part of their great PPV match the previous year, right? I should check that out at some point, been ages since I saw it.

Henry sells the great great while on offence, even though Hardy hadn't done anything to it for a while. No short term selling from the WWE's Strongest Man (this was 2008... so WSM will have been... Mariusz Pudzianowski, with Big Z the Arnold Strongman winner for like the billionth time in a row. Henry would have NEVER won the 2002 competition had Big Z and any other credible strongmen been involved. What was I talking about?)

Henry is fine on offence, nothing overly special as he has a habit of sitting in a nerve grip hold, but he dishes out some goodness any time he's cutting Matt Hardy off. And he's STILL selling the leg which is awesome, and Matt every now and then sees a chance to hit it even if it doesn't get him back on top.

Nice little finishing stretch, and Henry loses clean to a Twist of Fate! Well, Matt IS the champion afterall! Good match, plenty to like.

Rating: ***1/4
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Well, it was about 16 or so give or take with the commercial in tact. Perhaps that got int the way too. Yeah, I was thinking of working my way onto it right now actually. I can hold off on Kane vs Umaga from 9/16/06 for one more match.

Didn't Regal do that b/c of something with Burchill? If I'm way off, well, I won't be surprised. Most segments around that time I only saw once back when it aired.
Looking forward to reading your thoughts on that match.

And yes, you're absolutely right about Regal/Burchill. I have a hard time understanding why WWE love embarrassing Regal so damn often.
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Edge/Orton at WM23 would have been great, plus it would have allowed WWE to keep Edge's Wrestlemania streak going for another year until he faced Undertaker at Wrestlemania 24.



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Random thoughts as I'm watching the first disc of The Rock's BD set.

My number one guilty pleasure match is the triple threat cage match from Breakdown 1998. If I'm not mistaken at this time Mankind was somewhat of a tweener, Shamrock was a face (?) and Rock was technically still a heel. But seeing as though the show was in Canada, Shamrock is booed throughout, Mankind is cheered and booed, and The Rock comes out to hero worship. Amazing ovation and the adulation just grows throughout. Especially when Shamrock and Mankind team up against The Rock.

From then on, its all The Rock's show. Huge chants, and one of the craziest crowd reactions/ovations I've ever seen when he does the double People's Elbow. Honestly, the entire arena gets up and the hard camera is shaking like mad and its just mental. I love how the crowd is cheering masssively while Rock is running the ropes and then everyone kinda goes quiet to see how he'll drop the elbow on both of them. Then they explode once he does it. Mental stuff.

Rock kinda takes the cheap victory in the end but gets no heat for it. Mankind cracks Shamrock with a chair and goes to climb the cage. Rock just crawls over and pins Shamrock for the victory.

Anyways, I could ramble on and on but I won't. Ridiculously fun match that I could watch over and over.

Also, I always forget how much of a face reaction Rock gets at Backlash '99. He gets a major face pop for his entrance and gets cheered loads when he's on offence against Austin. No wonder he turned face the next night. Obviously, his pop wasn't as big as Austin who comes out and greeted as if he's the good Lord himself. Crazy times.

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Jack Swagger Vs Finlay - ECW 06/01/2009

Well, this is an awesome way to start things off! First ECW show of 09, first match too! Knew they had one in Feb and then NWO, but ANOTHER TV match? Sweeeet. Main event is Hardy Vs Henry too .

we see a Jeff Hardy fan (little kid, dressed like him) dancing like Hardy does when he comes out to the ring... to Finlay's babyface music. LOL. For some reason Finlay has an inflatable hammer with him that he throws into the crowd. Ok.

They go to the mat in the early going, as Swagger is the "wrestler" and Finlay can go to the mat with pretty much anyone anyway. Finlay despite being face still tries to grab the nose and hair of Swagger to break holds, and when he gets the chance on offence he has no problem hitting a stiff elbow and shit just for the hell of it. Hornswoggle gets smashed face first into the barricade. I smiled .

Swagger works over the arm of Finlay, and well it's a little dull tbh. He tends to sit in the hold rather than work it for the most part. Every now and then he'll crank on it but not nearly enough for my liking. At least Swagger keeps going to the arm any time Finlay attempts a comeback and Finlay sells it really well, so even if some of the arm work is a little boring, they still work it into the match really well so it's not a waste of time or anything.

Gutwrench Powerbomb and the #1 contender for the ECW title picks up another win. Good stuff. Could have been better, but even the slightly dull arm work doesn't bring it down too much thanks to everything else around it.

Rating: ***

Matt Hardy Vs Mark Henry - ECW 06/01/2009

How awesome is Henry's theme? SUMBODY GUNNA GET THEY ASS KICKED. SUMBODY GUNNA GET THEY WIG SPLIT. BEAT EM UP BEAT EM UP BREAK HIS NECK BREAK HIS NECK.

Henry dominates from the start, but on the outside Hardy is able to send Henry knees first into the steel steps, then take advantage in the ring with a little bit of leg work before Henry powers his way back in control. I seem to recall leg work being a big part of their great PPV match the previous year, right? I should check that out at some point, been ages since I saw it.

Henry sells the great great while on offence, even though Hardy hadn't done anything to it for a while. No short term selling from the WWE's Strongest Man (this was 2008... so WSM will have been... Mariusz Pudzianowski, with Big Z the Arnold Strongman winner for like the billionth time in a row. Henry would have NEVER won the 2002 competition had Big Z and any other credible strongmen been involved. What was I talking about?)

Henry is fine on offence, nothing overly special as he has a habit of sitting in a nerve grip hold, but he dishes out some goodness any time he's cutting Matt Hardy off. And he's STILL selling the leg which is awesome, and Matt every now and then sees a chance to hit it even if it doesn't get him back on top.

Nice little finishing stretch, and Henry loses clean to a Twist of Fate! Well, Matt IS the champion afterall! Good match, plenty to like.

Rating: ***1/4





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