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Old 02-09-2013, 03:10 PM   #17151 (permalink)
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Bret WM 10 - *****
Davey Raw 97 - **** 3/4
Bret SS 94 - **** 1/2
w/Davey vs. HBK & Austin Raw 97 - **** 1/2
10-Man Tag Canadian Stampede - **** 1/4
w/Bret vs. Steiners WrestleFest 94 - **** 1/4
Shawn IYH 96 - ****
Bret Raw 95 - ****
w/Bret vs. The Quebecers - Royal Rumble 94 - ****
[personal favorite] 123 Kid - King Of The Ring 94 - *** 1/2+

I'm probably leaving off something really good like that Action Zone match with Bret, Cornette's Camp Tag from IYH 96, another Michaels match, or something...
YES. YES. YES.

The Owen/Bret tag matches in 94 were just complete BEAST mode. Come to think of it, a ton of Owen's best matches have come from tag matches.... Is this a mere coincidence or is he just a superior tag worker than a singles worker ?

Triple H mentions on his DVD before the Owen match that Owen never really scratched the surface of how great he was. Thoughts on this ?
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Old 02-09-2013, 03:39 PM   #17152 (permalink)
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- Best Raw matches per year:
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1993 - Ric Flair vs. Mr. Perfect Loser Leaves Town
1994 - Bret Hart vs. The 123 Kid WWF Title
1995 - Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart No Holds Barred
1996 - Shawn Michaels vs. Owen Hart in August
1997 - Owen Hart vs. The British Bulldog
1998 - Mick Foley vs. Terry Funk I Quit
1999 - Mankind vs. The Rock Ladder
2000 - DX & The Radicalz vs. The Rock, Cactus Jack & Too Cool
2001 - The Two Man Powertrip vs. Chris Benoit & Chris Jericho
2002 - The Undertaker vs. Jeff Hardy Ladder
2003 - Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels WHC Title
2004 - Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels WHC Title
2005 - Shawn Michaels vs. Shelton Benjamin Gold Rush
2006 - Edge vs. Ric Flair TLC
2007 - John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels WM23 Rematch (*****)
2008 - Jeff Hardy vs. Chris Jericho IC Title
2009 - John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels January
2010 - Daniel Bryan vs. Dolph Ziggler Champion vs. Champion
2011 - The Miz vs. John Morrison Falls Count Anywhere
2012 - CM Punk vs. Daniel Bryan Champion vs. Champion
- Top 15 Raw episodes:

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14 - 123 Kid and Marty Jannetty upset Razor and HBK respectively
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10 - 8.1 in ratings
9 - Homecoming in 2005
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7 - Invasion taken to the extreme
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Taker/Edge - WM24

Excellent stuff here, only second time i think i have watched this match tbh, Edge was really good here, some nice reversals/counters. ****1/2

Pity we couldnt bottle the Taker between 05-09.
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Oh, he's one of those guys on Youtube who sit in front of a camera and review shows? I'll pass then.

Rey Mysterio vs Sylvan - February 17th, 2006
I was initially shocked when I found myself enjoying this match, but then I realized it involved Rey Mysterio so I wasn't too surprised. Sylvan cuts a pre-match promo where he calls Mysterio UGLY~! Those are fightin' words for sure. Mysterio starts off the match by taking out his aggression on Sylvan by attacking him before he could enter the ring. They brawl for about a minute on the outside of the ring before the entered the ring and the match officially began. Mysterio continues his assault for about another minute or so before Sylvan gains the advantage. During his control segment, he kills Mysterio with a hard clothesline which I felt at home. The match ends abruptly with Mysterio landing behind Sylvan after Sylvan was attempting what looked to be a body slam, dropkicking Sylvan in the back, and then hit the 619. This was such a fun little match here that only went about five and a half minutes. I <3 Rey Mysterio and Smackdown~!
Rating: **1/4

JBL and Finlay vs. Chris Benoit and Lashley - February 17th, 2006
Booker T was on commentary during this match and because of this, it was hard to concentrate on the match due to how obnoxious he is on commentary. With that said, this match was pretty good. Finlay and JBL basically try to break Benoit's hand early on in the match, which included JBL stomping on Benoit's hand on the steel steps about seven times while the referee's back was turned. Benoit would tag in Lashley, who would come in and get some shots in on both JBL and Finlay but he too would have his turn playing the face in peril. One hilarious moment took place during Lashley's FIP stint, as JBL kept trying to tag in Finlay but the referee wouldn't acknowledge the tag even though it was right in front of him for some reason which prompted Finlay to yell "What in the hell is the matter with you?" Lashley soon afterwards would make the tag to Benoit, who would come in and get his shots in and even had the match won before Booker T interfered, hit Benoit with a chair, and Benoit would then walk right into JBL's clothesline from hell to give the victory to JBL and Finlay. JBL and Finlay make an awesome team, by the way. Two stiff workers who love to just beat the shit out of their opponents.
Rating: ***

The Undertaker and Kurt Angle vs. MNM and Mark Henry - February 17th, 2006
The story of this match was both Angle and Undertaker wanting to show off heading into their match at the No Way Out Pay Per View. The early portion of the match shows just that, as both Angle and Undertaker take turns trying to one-up each other before Mark Henry clothesline both of them out of the ring, which leads us to a commercial break. When we returned, Angle was playing the FIP and this turned into your standard handi-cap match. The finish came when Undertaker was about to chokeslam Mark Henry, but Angle tagged himself in on Taker's extended hand. He would then come in and quickly make Johnny Nitro tap out to the ankle lock. There was nothing extraordinarily good in this match but nothing bad either. It was just your basic TV main event.
Rating: **

I have No Way Out 2006 on tap next, which I'm going to start watching in a couple of minutes. I might just watch the Cruserweight match, JBL/Lashley, Orton/Mysterio, and Angle/Taker. I've heard below average things about Booker/Benoit on this show and the Hardy and Tatanka/MNM match doesn't sound too appealing.

EDIT- Most of those episodes were actually awful/below average outside of those few moments he mentioned. The YWC is just awful.

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I'm late b/c I miss everything I want to catch b/c of time differences but w/e.

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Did we get a Finlay/Henry match on ECW in 09? That sounds boss on paper.
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Anyone looking for Owen hart matches should watch the Owen/Neidhart v Bret/Davey Boy (is that it?) tag from October 94. Smokes the Steiners tag tbh. So does Owen/Yokozuna v Luger/Davey Boy from one of the In Your Houses in 95. Also watch the Vader match from One Night Only, the Shamrock Lion's Den from SummerSlam 98 and the Scorpio match from Raw that gets good time.

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Triple H mentions on his DVD before the Owen match that Owen never really scratched the surface of how great he was. Thoughts on this ?
I think the fact Owen was so good actually kind of hurt him. IDK if that makes sense, but watching a crap-ton of Owen Hart....a lot of time it looked like was barely trying, yet was still having pretty awesome matches on cruise control. He definitely wasn't a lazy guy, but he was so naturally good that he could almost afford to be lazy if he wanted to. He wanted to leave wrestling in 93 to become a firemen or something before they turned him heel and feuded with Bret; he definitely didn't have that same kind of "passion", I guess, that a lot of others had. He really wasn't the most motivated through the later parts of his career, but he didn;t need to be to create something good. I feel bad saying a lot of this because it seems like I'm talking him down (which I wouldn't do), so with everything said I can't remember a bad Owen match. And shit, at his best he was pretty much as good as anyone.
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Oh, he's one of those guys on Youtube who sit in front of a camera and review shows? I'll pass then.
Actually no, his videos are kinda like this:



That's one of his vids BTW.
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Batista/HHH was better than Edge/Jericho and Booker/HHH? What a nerd.

Is Benoit/Booker any good from No Way Out 2006?
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Wow, watching that made me realise there really haven't been too many good WHC matches at WrestleMania. Honestly my #1'd probably be Taker/Batista, and I don't even LOVE that. I guess I'd have to watch it again.


Fuck, I don't start uni until July (I was supposed to start something else next week but you don't give a SHEEIT). I should actually do what I've never done before and watch every WrestleMania in full, to lead up to Mania 29. If I get it done too early I should watch the Starrcades.


EDIT - I was pretty bored by Benoit/Booker tbh.
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This guy also did reviews of a lot of shows, which are currently uploaded: all WrestleMania's, all SummerSlam's, No Mercy and Survivor Series 02, Badd Blood and Survivor Series 97, most of WWE/TNA PPV's from 2012, Genesis and RR 2013, Bound For Glory 06, some of the ROH Summer of Punk PPV's, ECW Barely Legal and One Night Stand 05, When Worlds Collide, and Heroes Of Wrestling.

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Oh and Booker/Benoit NWO 06, that was pretty good.
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The video I clicked on had Linda McMahon's theme playing. I marked.

GOON, I'd watch Hardy/Tatanka vs MNM, it really isn't that bad.
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