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Old 02-08-2013, 07:02 PM   #17031 (permalink)
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Masters? He's working all over the place. US, PR, Japan, England, Rome, that Indian TNA affiliate. Don't think he's really under contract anywhere.
I think Cal was addressing my query about where Masters went in between his first release and subsequent return .

Good to hear he's getting regular work though. I recall he was in Ra Ka King as a heel and having some fun matches, deserves to get some regular exposure. Doubt he'll get to go to New Japan but if he did that would be a great accolade for him even if its highly unlikely.
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Some more Smackdown 2006~!

Mark Henry vs. Rey Mysterio - January 27th, 2006
This is a rematch from last week and even though it wasn't as good, it was still pretty fun/good. It started out with Mysterio attacking Henry on the apron before Henry entered the ring in an attempt to get a jump on the big man. It didn't seem to help, as this match was all Henry until the final three minutes or so, when Mysterio made a comeback that was pretty fun to watch, which started with Mysterio outsmarting Henry by crawling under the ring, crawling out of the other side, and leaping onto Henry, knocking Henry down. Henry eventually put Mysterio away and this match mainly served the purpose of putting Henry over for his World Heavyweight title match against Kurt Angle at the Royal Rumble and making Rey Mysterio look credible by having the UNBEATABLE~! Mark Henry on the ropes (literally because he hit him with the 619~!) When it comes to Henry/Mysterio matches, this one seems to be forgotten even though it was pretty good in its own right. Only reason I'm not going three stars for this match is because I don't feel it is as good as their match last week (which I rated ***) but I'll put it just a notch below their match last week.
Rating: **3/4

Randy Orton vs. Chris Benoit (No Holds Barred) - January 27th, 2006
These two started off the match with some technical wrestling, but that all came to an end about six minutes into the match when Orton hit Benoit in the head with a trash can lid. After that, this match turned into a pretty great match/brawl, with each man getting their shots in and not one man being in control for too long, just like in their previous match two weeks before. This wasn't like some No Holds Barred matches where they a ton of weapons were involved, as the weapon that was actually used was a trash can. The trash can was used smartly as well, as Orton nailed Benoit with a shot to the head with it before a commercial break and Orton using it to defend himself from a diving headbutt from Benoit. It also played a role in the finish as well, as Benoit used it to stagger Orton when he hit Orton in the head with the lid and then put the dazed Orton in the cross face. I think I enjoyed this match just a bit more than their match two weeks before, but not by much. The only real negative to this match was Orton's CHINLOCKS~! but outside of that, this was a great match. This one will be in the top five of my list by the time I'm done with this project.
Rating: ****1/4

EDIT- JBL/Eddie from Judgement Day 2004 was just fantastic on almost every level. The great thing is that it was one of the few matches in WWE history where they hype it up as both guys basically wanting to kill each other and they end up delivering on that hype. Most personal feuds like that end up delivering a boring, nonviolent match even though they're supposed to hate each other (SEE: Orton/HHH at Wrestlemania 25). HHH/Orton at Wrestlemania 25 should have been an all out brawl, but it ended up being a boring, straight up wrestling match where they seemed content just to out-wrestle each other.
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I think Cal was addressing my query about where Masters went in between his first release and subsequent return .

Good to hear he's getting regular work though. I recall he was in Ra Ka King as a heel and having some fun matches, deserves to get some regular exposure. Doubt he'll get to go to New Japan but if he did that would be a great accolade for him even if its highly unlikely.
I think he DID work for IGF, but not New Japan. He's had a good bunch of matches overall, but he's mostly been working heel.

He should definitely come back to McMahon Land.
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Ziggler/Masters was really good. Like REALLY good. Can't believe Masters was able to improve that much.


One of the best I've seen in years. Masters also has another stellar match vs McIntyre in 2011 (b/c I noticed WOOLCOCK pimped out the first from 2010 to you) if you're looking for more if not all of Masters' prime bouts from his 2009 - 2011 tenure.

I really should give that lengthy match vs Chavo from Superstars in 2010 another shot. It's Yeah1993 approved. Maybe I was too frustrated with Chavo having to work with guys like JTG & MVP, aka the matches SUCKED, then he goes with Masters and there was still a remaining stigma. idk. It'll only take 8 minutes of my time.

btw, Masters vs Bourne from 9/3/09 IMO.
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MNM vs. The Mexi-Cools - February 3rd, 2006
I decided to watch this match because of who was involved and I'm glad that I did. The Mexi-Cools start off on fire by quickly putting MNM on the defensive and Super Crazy even jumps over the referee to take out both Nitro and Mercury on the outside of the ring before a commercial break. When we returned, Psychosis (sp?) plays the FIP and does a good job of it before making the hot tag to Super Crazy, who comes in and cleans house like every other face does in tag matches. He nearly gets the win with a tornado DDT but Mercury breaks up the three count. Melina "hurts" her ankle when Mercury accidentally knocks her off of the apron, which causes her to take her boot off. This plays into the finish, as Super Crazy goes to the top rope for a moonsult but Melina hits him in the face with her boot, which allows Mercury to cover Super Crazy for the victory. This match only received about seven minutes but this was AWESOME~! for the seven minutes it received.
Rating: ***1/4

Midget in Blue vs. Midget in Black - February 3rd, 2006
I don't know what their names are, but this was just pure fun and wacky for the three minutes it received. I probably enjoyed this match more than most of the matches in today's WWE just because of how fun and entertaining this was. I probably enjoyed this more than most because of my sense of humor but I don't care. It wouldn't be fair to slap a star rating onto this since this wasn't meant to be a serious match but at the end of the day, this was AWESOME~!
Rating: ***** on the FUN and WACKY~! SCALE

Chris Benoit vs. Finlay - February 3rd, 2006
I'm going to confess that this is my first ever time watching these two men wrestle. These men both work extremely stiff with each other and some of the blows that these two men dealt out to each other I felt at my desk as I watched this match. This match only received about six minutes before the disqualification ending but this was hard-hitting fun for those six minutes. I can see myself enjoying their matches later in the year, which go much longer than six minutes and get a lot of love in this thread. Needless to say, I'm hyped to see these guys go for an extended period of time.
Rating: **1/2

Kurt Angle and Rey Mysterio vs. Randy Orton and Mark Henry - February 3rd, 2006
The match started off Kurt Angle and Randy Orton, but Orton wanted Mysterio so Angle tagged in Mysterio. Orton and Mysterio went at it and Mysterio wanted to kill Orton since this was the show where Orton said that Eddie Guerrero was in hell. Mysterio plays the face in peril for a couple of minutes until he makes the tag to Kurt Angle who comes in and gets his shots in before switching roles with Mysterio and playing the FIP. Angle makes the hot tag to Mysterio, but not before having an exchange with Orton where they exchange uppercuts, which I found awesome. In the end, the match comes down to Orton and Mysterio as Angle chased Daivari through the crowd and Henry (slowly) followed them in a desperate attempt to save his manager. This match was fine although I feel that these four could have produced something much better.
Rating: **1/4

Oh, and I've decided to add some Pay Per Views to this "project" of mine. By that, I mean that I'll be adding the Smackdown exclusive Pay Per Views to this (No Way Out, Judgment Day, Great American Bash, No Mercy, and Armageddon). I didn't add the "big four" shows because 1) I don't want to waste the time downloading them and 2) I don't recall any good Smackdown matches taking place on any of those shows outside of Angle/Orton/Mysterio from Wrestlemania 22 but that match isn't good enough to warrant me downloading all of the "big four" shows.
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Good move on deciding to toss in some PPVs. Mostly on the front of seeing what Benoit vs Finlay can look like with more than 6 minutes.

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They do lock it up again before Judgment Day and got nearly 18, which is also excellent. If not slightly better than the PPV match. Only put this in spoiler tags b/c I wasn't sure if you knew and didn't want to spoil without a subtle hint. idk. I can talk about their matches for days. Same with Regal vs Benoit or Regal vs Finlay. Those were the kings of 2006 on Smackdown looking back. If not Henry, Orton, & Undertaker respectively too. Damn that roster was stacked.
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Off the top of my head, the only big 4 PPV SD matches worth seeing are Benoit/JBL WM and Undertaker/Kennedy SS. However if you don't think much to Undertaker/Kennedy NM then don't bother with SS because it's not as good. Benoit/JBL is good though.
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Survivor Series
No Mercy
Armageddon

That's where I rank the Undertaker vs Kennedy matches. Their No Mercy match is weird. Part of me feels like I shouldn't enjoy it, but I do. Last Ride match is bleh.
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123 Kid vs. Diesel - January 15, 1994
This was a delightfully great 7-8 minute match between someone who can bump great and someone who's great at just throwing fuckers around, it certainly doesn't hurt that these two are great friends so they're more inclined to bump and make their buddy look extra special. Waltman is such a great worker in this time frame. He bumps like crazy regardless of who he's in there with and just excels in these David vs. Goliath matches. He works these style of matches perfectly and sells the FIP tremendously. Nash is well...what you'd expect. He's still green as fuck around this time, but that doesn't matter cause all he has to do is toss Waltman around like a rag doll and Kid is gonna do the rest and make Nash look great, which he does. Crowd was hot and eating up every bit of Waltman's offense, you could really tell the people around this bought really bought into Kid's gimmick that he could beat anybody on any night so kudos to Waltman for that. Finish was kind of lame and out of nowhere, but I really can't remember if Diesel had an established finisher during this time so that could be the reason. Regardless, it's always fun to see Kliq members tangling and always extra fun to watch Waltman bump around like crazy. **1/2
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Survivor Series
No Mercy
Armageddon

That's where I rank the Undertaker vs Kennedy matches. Their No Mercy match is weird. Part of me feels like I shouldn't enjoy it, but I do. Last Ride match is bleh.
The Undertaker Vs Mr Kennedy - Nürnberg, Germany 08/11/2006 - ****1/4
The Undertaker Vs Mr Kennedy - No Mercy October 8th 2006 - ****1/4
The Undertaker Vs Mr Kennedy - Armageddon December 17th 2006 - ***1/2
The Undertaker Vs Mr Kennedy - Survivor Series November 26th 2006 - ***1/2

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