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Old 02-08-2013, 05:51 PM   #17021 (permalink)
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Yup, its brilliant in how great he became and is a nice story that time away to develop and mature can indeed work wonders. But its also sad to see him get released despite being a top 5 worker in the company and actively improve his performances and apparently backstage demeanour. At least we got a great year and a bit out of him at a time when Superstars was afforded some of the better overlooked talents, but its still depressing to see some wastes of space on the roster and think Masters and Gallows in particular are no longer with the company.

He was arguably 2nd to only Christian in terms of limb selling and babyface work in his comeback. Every match was built around his comeback and the Masterlock. He busted his ass taking some great bumps and timing his offence excellently. Got over with the crowd despite having non existant storylines and getting no attention or spotlight.
He got the crowd to pop for a near countout finish like midway through the match. On WWE's C show. That alone speaks volumes about his performance and how well the match was worked. It's a shame he wasn't putting in displays like this in his first run when they were intent on pushing him.
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Old 02-08-2013, 05:56 PM   #17022 (permalink)
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Yup, he only has himself to blame for how he acted in his first stint. By all accounts though his release and return was for the better and he acknowlodged his own stupidity in wasting such a great opportunity. Pretty sure he might have outbumped Ziggler in their match as well. Dude really utilised every match to showcase he should be on the main roster and wasn't afraid to take some manly bumps for a guy of his size.
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What I really hate about the whole Masters thing is that he was almost what they want. In his first run he had the great look but he wasn't very good so they didn't want to use him. in the second run he still had the look (hell, a better look since he wasn't THAT jacked), and was a fucking awesome wrestler (like, legit as good as anyone in the company during the whole year of 2010 other than Rey and maybe Christian) and they still didn't want to use him. Then HHH tells him he's gotten better and they want to do something with him and they fuck him off. This is all while a wrestler like JTG is still employed. There can be almost nothing to explain it.

edit- I don't think Masters' 2010 rivals Christian's 09, though.

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Henry really started coming into his own in 2006 since he finally received an opportunity to actually be able to showcase his ability. I'm almost done with January 2006 for my Smackdown 2006 project and Henry has been pretty awesome so far. His performance in the World Heavyweight Championship Battle Royal was awesome when he made even big guys like Lashley look like complete GEEKS next to him. He was also awesome in his match against Rey Mysterio the next week, especially when he nearly killed Mysterio with a clothesline.
You just wait for that awesome match Henry has with Taker. Or the aftermath of a Henry/Hardy match where Henry yells at the crowd that he'll 'eat their face off'.
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Old 02-08-2013, 06:09 PM   #17024 (permalink)
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Oh I'd put Christian's 09 ahead of it, I was just using his year as a point of comparison in how well Masters was working on a week to week basis. He might have only managed to get enough time to deliver a handful of really great matches, but his ratio of good-very good especially with the time he was given was remarkably high and I can't recall anything close to a bad performance from him.

The entire timing of his run is so unlucky. Unfortunately he was brash, reckless and naive in his first stint and it gave him a stigma of being too risky to push in spite of his obvious talent, hardwork and ability to work a crowd incredibly well for someone given little to nothing to work with in terms of programs or feuds. Did it ever become apparent where he went in between his release and return? Sure I heard rumours about Japan but can't recall exactly. Wherever he did go deserves all the credit in the world for how they improved/motivated him.
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What I really hate about the whole Masters thing is that he was almost what they want. In his first run he had the great look but he wasn't very good so they didn't want to use him. in the second run he still had the look (hell, a better look since he wasn't THAT jacked), and was a fucking awesome wrestler (like, legit as good as anyone in the company during the whole year of 2010 other than Rey and maybe Christian) and they still didn't want to use him. Then HHH tells him he's gotten better and they want to do something with him and they fuck him off. This is all while a wrestler like JTG is still employed. There can be almost nothing to explain it.
Yeah exactly. Even if they didn't want to push him that high up the card he could be having good matches as a mid-card babyface making better use of that position than guys like Miz and Kofi Kingston.
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Pretty sure he went to Puerto Rico, and I'm fairly sure he worked for Inoki in Japan as well.
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WWE Judgment Day 2004 - WWE World Heavyweight Championship: Eddie Guerrero vs. John Bradshaw Layfield

Hands down one of the most AWESOME, BLOODY, VIOLENT & HATE filled matches in WWE history. And tbf that's all people remember but theirs so much more than that. With Eddie just beating the shit out of him for like 10 straight minutes until the brutal chair shot which was made too look more brutal cause of the blade job by Eddie. From that this just ended up being a total brawlfeast with a chaotic ending. I HIGHLY recommend that you see this match as soon as possible. ****1/2
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Eddie/JBL is outstanding. MOTY for 2004, most likely worldwide except for Hashimoto/Kawada, Takayama/Kobashi and Santo/Perro depending on how good it is on a rewatch.

Eddie is as good as ever as the plucky, fiery and passionate babyface out for JBL's blood. JBL proves he's a capable and handy worker as the violent bully brutalising a defenceless and helpless Eddie. The emotion, tension and drama as the blood covers the canvas and Eddie looks on the verge of defeat is astounding. Eddie's comeback and build is wonderfully done and arguably the highpoint of the match and the subsequent beating of JBL is emphatic and advances the feud. DQ finish is also ingenious in protecting JBL who couldn't lose his first title match whilst allowing for Eddie to keep the title since he couldn't lose to JBL as well as providing for a legitimate claim for a rematch with JBL being able to claim Eddie did it deliberately to protect the title. Top 15 match in company history and a true gem.

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Pretty sure he went to Puerto Rico, and I'm fairly sure he worked for Inoki in Japan as well.
Masters? He's working all over the place. US, PR, Japan, England, Rome, that Indian TNA affiliate. Don't think he's really under contract anywhere.
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Would be awesome if he returned as part of this apparent "bring back former talent" thing that WWE are supposed to be doing (has anyone actually returned through this yet though lol?). Though working for TNA's India thing might mean he ends up in TNA, possibly in Aces & Eights will atm would be terrible because they are fucking that group up on a weekly basis.
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