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Haven't seen it. Took a pretty long break from wrestling around then which is why I'm only now seeing Bryan/Henry for the first time. Missed most (basically all) of Masters' second stint in the company. I'll have to give that match a look when I get the chance, along with the Masters/Ziggler match that HayleySabin loves.
Oh man, you're in for a treat. Amazing limb selling from Masters, great control segment by Mcintyre, smart structure from Mcintyre being frustrated and overwhelmed early, then a gloriously cocky and methodical bastard when in control, great teasing of the Masters comeback before a smart finishing stretch with Masters incorporating his injury into his offence, a smart callback spot to a short February Smackdown match between them and a great finish with brilliant selling that completes the entire story. Their August 2010 encounter is also very good, albeit just below. Its 8/26 and has Regal/Goldust as the opener in another strong showing.

Masters/Ziggler is excellent and surreal. All built around the Masterlock vs The Sleeper and its amazing how well Masters bumps and times everything. Between the pair of them they make the battle to lock on their submission the decisive issue in who wins the match and its such smart work and credit to both that the fans are into it considering how basic and simple it is.

Honestly Masters' run was rivalling Christian's 2009 in terms of consistently great week to week performances and matches. Doesn't have the coup de grace that is Christian/Swagger 2/24/09, but he was putting in wonderful performances every week, got himself very over considering he was a glorified curtain jerker and was sadly saddled by his past reputation and violating two wellness tests meaning they never trusted him enough to put him on TV even in a small midcard push.

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Pretty great way of putting it, WOOLCOCK. Does he still do that move that's a guillotine on the middle rope but he slides through the ropes to the outside? I've always found that to be extremely impressive for a man his size.


can't recall for certain. Think it varies on a match to match basis. Guess the only way he'd drop it is if his knees began to play up and it proved an unwanted hassle.

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I've always been a huge Masters fan, even when everyone shat on him. That being said, I haven't seen these matches, either. Guess I know what I'm watching next.





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I've always been a huge Masters fan, even when everyone shat on him. That being said, I haven't seen these matches, either. Guess I know what I'm watching next.
Its honestly terrible that he didn't get as good as he did until after his first release from the company and subsequent return. He'd have been hampered by being a heel, but just knowing what could have been if he didn't have an untrustworthy reputation in spite of cleaning himself up and supposedly becoming more dependable and professional backstage.

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Henry really started coming into his own in 2006 since he finally received an opportunity to actually be able to showcase his ability. I'm almost done with January 2006 for my Smackdown 2006 project and Henry has been pretty awesome so far. His performance in the World Heavyweight Championship Battle Royal was awesome when he made even big guys like Lashley look like complete GEEKS next to him. He was also awesome in his match against Rey Mysterio the next week, especially when he nearly killed Mysterio with a clothesline.

I'm a bit late when it comes to this, but if we get Del Rio/Henry at Wrestlemania. It would probably be one of the best matches of the night if they received about 10-15 minutes. It would be even sweeter if they put the belt on Henry but I have a feeling this match will just lead to Henry losing, Henry killing Del Rio after the match, and Ziggler cashing in his Money in the Bank contract.

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I'm a bit late when it comes to this, but if we get Del Rio/Henry at Wrestlemania. It would probably be one of the best matches of the night if they received about 10-15 minutes. It would be even sweeter if they put the belt on Henry but I have a feeling this match will just lead to Henry losing, Henry killing Del Rio after the match, and Ziggler cashing in his Money in the Bank contract.
Win-win, imo. Henry as champ or Henry killing ADR afterwards so that DOLPH can cash in are both good outcomes. Think the smark NY crowd would lose their shit if DOLPH cashed in and won the title.





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I see the possibility in Henry decimating Del Rio leading to the cash in. But atm I'm thinking Del Rio retains to try and make him appear a legit champion and raise his stock. Looks like Henry will rightfully go undefeated into Mania and after presumably beating Big Show for the third time at EC, Del Rio having to take on another monster heel and do what only Big Show could manage in 2011 sets the stage for a pretty interesting title match. Would not disapprove of Henry winning the belt and having Del Rio chase him for a couple of months and delaying the essential Henry defeat where he puts over a new star. Either direction if handled with care should be entertaining and produce great rewards.
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Ziggler/Masters was really good. Like REALLY good. Can't believe Masters was able to improve that much.
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Yup, its brilliant in how great he became and is a nice story that time away to develop and mature can indeed work wonders. But its also sad to see him get released despite being a top 5 worker in the company and actively improve his performances and apparently backstage demeanour. At least we got a great year and a bit out of him at a time when Superstars was afforded some of the better overlooked talents, but its still depressing to see some wastes of space on the roster and think Masters and Gallows in particular are no longer with the company.

He was arguably 2nd to only Christian in terms of limb selling and babyface work in his comeback. Every match was built around his comeback and the Masterlock. He busted his ass taking some great bumps and timing his offence excellently. Got over with the crowd despite having non existant storylines and getting no attention or spotlight.
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Think I'll give those Masters matches a watch later. It's a shame they released him after he had improved so much.

Smackdown 14/4/2006:

JBL vs Chris Benoit (Steel Cage) - ★★★˝
- Excellent match and they actually get a decent amount of time to go at it. Benoit is always great at playing the intense wrestling machine despite his size and JBL is about as good a heel as one can get. They have always meshed together well and this one makes up for their lackluster Wrestlemania match. Some awesome spots like the Russian Leg Sweep and German Suplex off the top rope. I also liked the WM recall with JBL reversing the Crossface into a roll-up but this time Benoit kicks out instead of holding on. I hate one thing about the finish, though. That's the fact they play it up as if disqualifications exist in cage matches. It's obviously "turned off" yet they show JBL's lowblow that helps him escape "away from the referee" just to make it look unclean. Lowblows and interference is legal, so might as well just continue doing your job as referee! Otherwise, this was a great match and one of my favorite cage matches.

Kurt Angle vs Randy Orton - ★★˝
- First round of King of the Ring tournament and this match sets it off. A little rushed because Orton was about to serve his two month suspension. Orton works on Angle's shoulder and Angle spends most of the match selling with the exception of constantly going for the Ankle Lock which Orton sells to perfection until it's grapevined and Orton taps out for the ending. Could have been better given more time but since Angle was going to work the dark match afterward, they probably wanted to not over-work him. Post-match, Angle locks in the Ankle Lock a couple of more times and Orton sells it like he's received a broken ankle which officially marks the writing off for him and marks the end of this awesome chapter in his career as part of Smackdown. Fun while it lasted!

And since champions not appearing on the show is fresh on everyone's mind, I found it strange that Rey Mysterio no showed this episode other than a video package (could swear they did the same thing with Benoit after Backlash 04) dedicated to him. He was on the dark match so I have no idea what held him back from appearing.
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Why did Masters get released the 2nd time? Was that part of the annual "Spring Cleaning" of the roster?





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