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Old 03-02-2012, 10:11 AM   #161 (permalink)
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Yeah I've not seen SS 1996 in a while but I was a fan of it last time around, though its a step step down from Wrestlemania 13. I seem to remember Cal or Yeah1993 being a big fan of (or at the very least discussing) an Austin/Bret match from Africa I believe, unless I've got the participants wrong but I'm 99% sure its those two.

Canadian Stampede 10 man also kicks all sorts of ass, and whilst we're on the matter of great multi mans the February 2000 10 man tag from Dallas featuring Cactus/Rock/Too Cool v HHH and The Radicalz also needs more love. An insane segment/match with an unbelieveable crowd which is honestly one of the best tv matches the company has put on IMO.
Yeah, I was pimping their match in South Africa at some point. Really good, but a step below their SS and WM matches.

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Some people didn't like Bret no selling the Stunner at SS. I never had a problem with it, really. But it's weird that Bret never lost even once to Austin clean. Perhaps had he been around longer, no doubt a huge WWF title match would have happened and he would put Austin over.
The "no sell" of the Stunner was at WM.
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Old 03-02-2012, 10:23 AM   #162 (permalink)
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Oh, I thought it was SS. It's been awhile since I seen it, must be getting old.

I was kinda disappointed in the In Your House match after Mania. Just seems like they would want their final ppv match to be special, but I guess that was just a blowoff match, but the weak DQ ending just seemed kinda lame.
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Bret Hitman Hart: The Best There Is, The Best There Was, The Best There Ever Will Be

Disc One
Hart Foundation vs. British Bulldogs - ***
Hart Foundation vs. Killer Bees - *** 1/2

Disc Two
Bret Hart vs. Ricky Streamboat - ****
Bret Hart vs. Ted DiBiase - **** (Ted DiBiase DVD Please)
Hart Foundation vs. Rockers - ***3/4
Hart Foundation vs. Nasty Boys - ***
Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect (Summerslam) - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog (Summerslam) - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. Bam Bam Bigelow - ***1/2
Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect (King of the Ring) - *****
Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart (WrestleMania) - *****

Disc Three
Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - ****
Bret Hart vs Hakushi - ***
Bret Hart vs. Diesel - ****3/4 (Kevin Nash/Diesel DVD Please)
Bret Hart vs. British Bulldog (In Your House) - *****
Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. Undertaker - ****3/4
Bret Hart vs. Chris Benoit - ****1/2

Good lord, what a DVD set. I've never been a fan of Bret Hart but after watching this, he has my support. The documentary is brilliant but the matches, Jesus Christ they are great. Three ***** matches, Four ****3/4 matches and some ****1/2/****, you can't go wrong. The average match on this is well above ****. This set also reminded me how good DiBiase & Kevin Nash were and sets for both men would be a dead set buy from me. Great set and anyone who doesn't own it and has avoided it for so long like I had should get their hands on it ASAP. Only 7.99 on SilverVision.co.uk
Fantastic set. One of my favs. Bret is one of the best ever like him or not. Freakin workhorse.

Totally agree about DiBiase. He is from my wife's hometown and my home state so I'm a big fan. I'd buy this for sure. There could be some great matches, promos, etc. I'd love to hear your top 15-20 DiBiase matches.

Not a Nash fan. I have a hard time enjoying his matches. The ones with Bret and HBK were good but besides that....uuugh.
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If it wasn't for Bret and Shawn, he would have no good matches at all in 1995.
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I think Bret/Austin SS 1996 was a great match, but not a MOTYC or GOAT. It was simply a great match with great storytelling and strategies, but people overrate it more than sometimes. My rating: ***1/2
About right. I'm at the same rating. Maybe slightly higher, but yeah.


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I prefer the SS match between Bret and Austin to WM, but only ever so slightly. Too COMPLETELY different matches, and it says a lot about them as performers that they can have 2 ***** (imo of course) matches during the same feud and tell 2 stories that are perhaps more different than any 2 matches between any 2 wrestlers in a series of matches.

As for Bret/Davey, I don't think too much to their matches. WM X with Owen is worlds above any Bret/Davey match for me. Don't like their cage match though. Urgh.
The Cage match certainly doesn't touch their WrestleMania X match. I have it at around *** 3/4. Still a great match in its own right.


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Yeah I've not seen SS 1996 in a while but I was a fan of it last time around, though its a step step down from Wrestlemania 13. I seem to remember Cal or Yeah1993 being a big fan of (or at the very least discussing) an Austin/Bret match from Africa I believe, unless I've got the participants wrong but I'm 99% sure its those two.

Canadian Stampede 10 man also kicks all sorts of ass, and whilst we're on the matter of great multi mans the February 2000 10 man tag from Dallas featuring Cactus/Rock/Too Cool v HHH and The Radicalz also needs more love. An insane segment/match with an unbelieveable crowd which is honestly one of the best tv matches the company has put on IMO.
It's amongst the best 10-men tag team match; both the ones you mentioned. Both matches had super hot crowd and the action was non-stop. Incredible matches both and the atmosphere made it even better.
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I gotta say, Hart/Diesel from Survivor Series 1995 is one of my favorite WWF/E matches of all time. It was a brilliant storytelling 101.
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:14 PM   #167 (permalink)
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Great match, a lot better than their match at the Royal Rumble, although that was good too but the run-ins ruined the ending for me.

I wish they would do more elimination matches at SS. 1990 was my favorite. That year they had great elim. matches and then a grand finale match with the previous survivors in a final match. They really don't have the roster for that right now but hopefully one day they will again.
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Old 03-02-2012, 12:39 PM   #169 (permalink)
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Bret Hart and Kevin Nash had some pretty good chemistry, although I feel Bret Hart had good chemistry with a lot of guys.

In terms of chemistry, I'd have to say that Eddie and Rey have the best I've ever seen. I know about Flair/Steamboat, which is incredible, but not really my personal favorite.

Not sure how "great" the chemistry was between HBK and Bret, though. Recently, the series of Jericho/Mysterio matches a couple years back is one of my favorite series of the modern E. Benoit/Angle did some beautiful things too.
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Also Jericho/Benoit, they fought constantly in 2000-2001. Their ladder match at Royal Rumble '01 was one of favorite matches ever.
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