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Old 02-08-2013, 02:06 PM   #16971 (permalink)
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One can imagine since WWE puts alot of stock in him and he's just being shoveled shit as a punishment for like a year or something. Would imagine he gets back into the WHC mix in a few months or actually given some coherent storyline to work with, all I know is working with Wade Barrett every week would be torture to me.

Mark Henry better win that chamber match though. FUCK.
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Old 02-08-2013, 02:10 PM   #16972 (permalink)
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I'd like for Henry to win the title at WM, then the closer we get to the MITB PPV, the more nervous and frustrated Ziggler gets knowing that his title match contract runs out at the event, but can't find an opportunity to "steal" the title from Henry. Could have him supporting all of Henry's PPV match opponents, coming out at ringside in an attempt to help them beat the beast so he can have any kind of chance of cashing in. Then have Ziggler finally cash in at the MITB PPV when someone finally manages to beat Henry... only for the new MITB winner to cash in right after, roll up Ziggler and steal the title. Would be hilarious to see the reaction on here, and even though I'd think it would kinda suck, they could really build Ziggler up as a more vicious wrestler from there, which might help him really reach that next level. Feud with the guy who cashed in on him, and have Ziggler finally win the belt and have a decent reign.

Totally not gonna happen of course .
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Tbh I quite like the first part of that booking Cal. Ziggler basically being too afraid to cash in on Henry and valiantly hoping someone can beat Henry before the PPV when his shot expires would be the sort of comical heel booking that could be entertaining and add some depth to any Henry title defence with Ziggler waiting in the clutches ready to strike.

That being said, if I was booking I'd be doing my best to get Ziggler over as a face simply because I believe as a worker the guy would be far better working from underneath rather than controlling a match, plus the 'Showoff' character is so easy to spin from arrogant and cocky into confident and determined and succeed as a babyface. I'd book it along the lines of Ziggler picking up big wins in programs, trying to cash in on Henry but being beaten up before the bell rings, thus technically having not cashed in yet eating a big beating in the process. Everyone expects Ziggler to try again but instead he vows to cash in honorably in a legit match because he's determined to prove he can beat the monster through pride after getting his ass kicked. Announce it around late May - early June in anticipation of the MITB PPV, have everyone write off Ziggler as being plucky and brave but not standing a chance. At the event I'd either have him pin Henry and shock the world, or have him lose in defiant fashion, then build him up for 3-5 months before taking the title off Henry at the second time of asking.

I also think a scenario similar to Benoit/Lesnar, where someone like Cena or Sheamus would actually tip Ziggler to beat Henry because of how defiant and tenacious he's been could work. Always loved that backstage segment where A Train backed Benoit to win despite having feuded with him for 2 months prior to the match, based solely off of how tough Benoit had proven to be in spite of A Train disliking him.
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ADR/Henry sounds a million times better than any of the other suggestions/rumors I've seen for the world title at Mania. I'm fully behind them going that route.
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Agreed. In a perfect world they'd put the belt on Bryan or make him the challenger and give us arguably the best current pairing for a David vs Goliath match. Sadly we're resigned to Bryan being months away from sniffing a title program so Del Rio is by far the best alternative to Orton or Ryback. I'd love to see Sheamus/Henry continue their program from 2011 in between April and July if Henry does indeed ge the belt. Always thought they had good chemistry and Sheamus needs a good program to sustain momentum after the end of the Big Show feud.

Del Rio/Henry sounds promising though. Del Rio bumps and sells well, has the explosive and varied offence that works well for a smaller wrestler against someone of Henry's size and emotes very well although Henry's presence and charisma is so strong that even a generally tame babyface should flourish working beneath Henry. Henry deserves a Mania title program after his brilliant 2011 reign and really represents the best heel option on the roster with Lesnar being part time, as well as Lesnar's schedule and style befitting a part time approach.

Also if we're fantasy booking heel Henry vs face Bryan at Summerslam would likely be my dream scenario. Heard the rumours about Rock and Lesnar working Summerslam, which if that's the case allows them to book a slightly less 'high profile' title match whilst relying on Rock, Lesnar and Cena to pop a buyrate. Fuck just a Henry/Bryan program in general could be great for both, especially Bryan if they want to gradually turn him into a face since it looks like he's closer to a heel than Kane at present.
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Tbh I quite like the first part of that booking Cal. Ziggler basically being too afraid to cash in on Henry and valiantly hoping someone can beat Henry before the PPV when his shot expires would be the sort of comical heel booking that could be entertaining and add some depth to any Henry title defence with Ziggler waiting in the clutches ready to strike.

That being said, if I was booking I'd be doing my best to get Ziggler over as a face simply because I believe as a worker the guy would be far better working from underneath rather than controlling a match, plus the 'Showoff' character is so easy to spin from arrogant and cocky into confident and determined and succeed as a babyface. I'd book it along the lines of Ziggler picking up big wins in programs, trying to cash in on Henry but being beaten up before the bell rings, thus technically having not cashed in yet eating a big beating in the process. Everyone expects Ziggler to try again but instead he vows to cash in honorably in a legit match because he's determined to prove he can beat the monster through pride after getting his ass kicked. Announce it around late May - early June in anticipation of the MITB PPV, have everyone write off Ziggler as being plucky and brave but not standing a chance. At the event I'd either have him pin Henry and shock the world, or have him lose in defiant fashion, then build him up for 3-5 months before taking the title off Henry at the second time of asking.

I also think a scenario similar to Benoit/Lesnar, where someone like Cena or Sheamus would actually tip Ziggler to beat Henry because of how defiant and tenacious he's been could work. Always loved that backstage segment where A Train backed Benoit to win despite having feuded with him for 2 months prior to the match, based solely off of how tough Benoit had proven to be in spite of A Train disliking him.
I think between us we've just booked an awesome WHC angle for the rest of the year lol. Creative have like 10 guys and couldn't come up with anything that good in a month .

Just about to watch Henry/Orton . Haven't been this excited for an Orton match since... his last series with Henry .
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Henry/Orton is a very good match and arguably Orton's best performance as a face post 2010, hell maybe ever. Henry's story and desire and need to win drives the emotion and drama in the nearfalls but Orton really commits to making Henry look like an irresistable force who he can't beat. Big fan of the closing minutes with Orton looking helpless, trying for one surprise counter, being swatted away by the monster and the succumbing to a final Henry onslaught. Not Henry's best match but very good performances from both added to a great story surrounding Henry's need to complete his career journey by finally winning the big one.

edit: fuck I read that as Henry/Orton NOC 2011 . Ah well, point remains.

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I think Bryan v Kane at Mania could be good. Bryan needs to win though.

Heard Henry/Orton only got about 5 minutes but I'm still gonna watch. Bryan and Mysterio being confirmed for the chamber match has me excited. I'm expecting that to be the clear MOTY heading into Mania. Cena, Ryback and Sheamus v The Shield has potential to be great too. Elimination Chamber really needs to deliver after the massive disappointment known as the Royal Rumble.
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Just watched Orton/Henry:

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Henry rolls over Orton in 5 minutes. Awesome lol. Nothing special, but enjoyable enough for the time it got and the fact Henry wins and looks awesome. Henry, Mysterio, Bryan and Orton in the chamber match. Hopefully Orton ups his game for it. Expecting Swagger to be in it too. Pretty awesome lineup so far. Expecting Kane to also make it in so they can do something with Kane/Bryan. If not Kane... we'd better not fucking get Khali. Sheamus would have been a great addition but he's in the 6 man tag. Christian? I can dream.
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I think Bryan v Kane at Mania could be good. Bryan needs to win though.

Heard Henry/Orton only got about 5 minutes but I'm still gonna watch. Bryan and Mysterio being confirmed for the chamber match has me excited. I'm expecting that to be the clear MOTY heading into Mania. Cena, Ryback and Sheamus v The Shield has potential to be great too. Elimination Chamber really needs to deliver after the massive disappointment known as the Royal Rumble.
I don't think it'll get the necessary time to be great, but hopefully they can pull something good with the lack of time they're likely to be afforded. Agreed on Bryan winning, needs to be booked high up the card post Hell No breakup otherwise they risk floundering him and stifling his popularity which could easily transfer into strong merchandise sales and make them a tidy sum of money.

Excited for Shield vs Cena, Sheamus & Ryback. Praying they'll make it a Chamber match on the go home show just to add to the brutality and violence, though its looking less and less likely. Shield have to go over, preferably with Sheamus eating the pin. I'm expecting a tag at Mania featuring them and if that's the case they've got to be undefeated going into Mania to add intrigue as to whether they'll lose to satisfy the typically pro babyface booking or whether WWE will commit to them enough to put them over. Have them lose here and well the angle loses a bit of intrigue and ambiguity as to when their first loss will occur.

Going to say as well, loving the fact this will only be their 2nd match in 3 months. Feels like WWE are taking care and effort with this angle instead of rushing and making their appearances and matches feel less special. The fact by the time Mania comes around neither of them will have wrestled a singles match is even more impressive in creating this allure and making the first time one of them is placed on their own feel like something people will be interested in seeing. Imagine they could be in some good programs between now and Summerslam if WWE are really committed to making stars out of the three of them.
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