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post #16811 of 20566 (permalink) Old 02-07-2013, 02:54 AM
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I've changed my STARZ on both Hogan/Savage and Hogan/Warrior. The result is quite INTERESTING to say the least.

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I still enjoyed both when I watched them last night, hogan/warrior DAT atmosphere. Young edge would of been marking out.

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The Flair/Savage cage match is pretty ass-boring. Not the worst Flair match I guess, but one of higher profile that just wasn't any good. Goes forever, nothing really happens and then we get a 'surprise' heel turn. WCW were absolutely nutty for surprise heel turns in 1996.

I don't like a lot of 02-03 Flair either. Including the Michaels match at the PPV; they have a much, much better one at a house show that I think actually took place at MSG.

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Top 29 WM Matches:

1) Bret/Austin WM13
2) Taker/HBK WM25
3) Bret/Owen WM10
4) Austin/Rock WM17
5) Taker/HBK WM26
6) HBK/Jericho WM19
7) HBK/Razor WM10
8) Taker/Batista WM23
9) HBK/Angle WM21
10) Benoit/HBK/HHH WM20
11) Austin/Rock WM19
12) Taker/Edge WM24
13) Savage/Steamboat WM3
14) Taker/Orton WM21
15) Punk/Jericho WM28
16) Hogan/Savage WM5
17) MITB WM21
18) Edge/Foley WM22
19) MITB WM24
20) Flair/Savage WM8
21) Lesnar/Angle WM19
22) HBK/Cena WM23
23) Savage/Warrior WM7
24) Flair/HBK WM24
25) Taker/Kane WM14
26) Taker/HHH WM28
27) Taker/HHH WM17
28) Eddie Guerrero/Kurt Angle WM20
29) Edge/Jericho WM26
Since I'm far too lazy to make a list of my own, let me just say some things I'd change on your list, as a way to customize (remember, I'm lazy).

First is I'm bumping HHH/HBK/Benoit to the #1 spot. I love Hart/Austin, I really do, best moment in wrestling history to me as a fan, when Austin is riving and the blood is falling down his face, dripping off his nose. It's a brilliant match, but the question I ask myself is: Which match is a funner watch? Which match I enjoy more, keeps me more entertained? That triple threat has everything, unpredictable anything can happen finish, great submissions, sweet chins, I've seen it a million time, and everytime I watch it, it's completely riveting. It's fresh. It's new somehow. And when I rewatch the HBK/Taker matches, I just don't get that same feeling. At all. When I rewatch Austin/Hart, I'm bored with the work in the crowd and I'm just waiting for my moment, noticing it's weaknesses in the quality of the picture (seeing how it was from Mania 13). It just felt old. And I realize that this maybe a completely subjective thing, but those lines have been blurred for a long time kid.

I like the fact that Savage/Steamboat didn't make the top 10. Hell, on my list, it might not make the top 20. And say what you want, this is the Stairway to Heaven of pro wrestling. It's automatically billed as the best match/song ever, and if you don't think so, then automatically there's something wrong. It's idolized and put on a pedestal and almost seems to represent something other than a match. I understand that it was Wrestlemania 3, a number that we are about to TRIPLE (this match is old) it has a completely different pace. This is what I'm talking about when a few weeks ago I mentioned the significance of "Era's" in WWE. This is a match of a different era, where Randy Savage would jump off the top rope every night and people thought he was Jeff Hardy. It's a different product. What might have been 'catch-as-catch-can' back then isn't the same. It's a fine match, really, even if overrated. It really needs a context.

I love the love you give to Orton/Taker. One of my favorites from the Streak- probably the match that was most likely to see the Undertaker lose. It made the most sense here to give a completely mortal, now humble streak away to a rising young star, give him a lot of moment, pretty much do what "The Streak" was designed to do: Put over another worker. Except since it's Taker it's better off he just puts himself over. Which is fine. In fact, it's the way it should be. But it's just a really cool match.

Also like the respect given to HBK/Jericho.

Would definitely bump UP Lesnar/Angle. I'm a really, really big fan of Mania 19. Probably helps that I'm in Puget Sound.

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I think a lot more people like the 2004 3-way more than Savage v Steamboat. On this site, anyway. I bet if you ran a poll the numbers would tilt heavily toward the 3-way.

Also IDK what you mean by 'it really needs a context'. That wasn't their first match together and they actually had a running feud where Savage crushed Steamboat's larynx with the ring bell, which comes into play during the Mania match. It's just one big blow-off where mostly everything comes full circle.

I don't like when people use the 'it's outdated' line when talking about Savage/Steamboat. Who likes the match for the flying elbow and the 'moveset' and all that rubbish? It's an exciting feud-ender no matter what moves they used, and hell, people were doing more spectacular-looking moves in the 70s than in that match (maybe not in the WWF, but WHA/EV). It would have been a great match in 2013 (with most likely a bunch of shitfaces chanting "this is awesome") for the same reason it was a great match in 1987. If someone doesn't think it's a great match, then, y'know, whatever, different strokes. But 'this wouldn't look that impressive is it happened recently' is a criticism of the match I've always really hated.

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To think something decades ago couldn't be done nowadays or done BETTER is a complete farce. How much great wrestling came from WCW in the early 90's? Far too much to slaughter the latter 90's and earlier 2000's if I'm being honest. If not be a sustained period enough to hold up till this day.

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WHICH ONE?

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FUN.

The ending to '95 was the best though.

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