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Old 02-06-2013, 11:41 AM   #16711 (permalink)
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On that Best Of IYH DVD/BD:

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Its probably Todd saying WWF a zillion times lol, we can fackin say it again, or saying WWF before he introduces anything.
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Old 02-06-2013, 11:47 AM   #16712 (permalink)
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TV MOTY's since 02:

2002: Undertaker vs. Jeff Hardy (Raw Ladder Match): ****
2003: Brock Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle (SD Ironman Match): ****3/4 (GOAT TV Match)
2004: Undertaker vs. John Cena (SD June): ****
2005: Shawn Michaels vs. Shelton Benjamin (Raw Gold Rush): ****1/2
2006: Undertaker vs. Kurt Angle (Smackdown): ****1/4
2007: Shawn Michaels vs. John Cena (Raw in London): ****1/2
2008: Undertaker vs. Kane (Smackdown April): ***3/4
2009: Christian vs. Jack Swagger (ECW Jan or Feb or Mar): ****1/4
2010: Undertaker vs. CM Punk (SD September): ****
2011: CM Punk vs. Dolph Ziggler (Raw November): ****1/4
2012: CM Punk vs. Mark Henry (Raw 4/2/12): ****
Solid list. I really want to go back and check some of these out. Can't believe 2008 didn't produce anything better. Mysterio/Morrison from SD might give Christian/Swagger a run for its money.

Speaking of LEGIT TV matches, finally watched Jericho/Punk from Raw. Really good match. It's amazing how consistent Jericho is despite not wrestling a lengthy regular schedule in years.

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Wrestle War 2/25/90

Rock & Roll Express/Midnight Express ****1/4

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Just watched THAT Kane vs. Big Show mach that I've heard people talking about.



The randomness of it. Besides the ending I actually liked it though, however the crowd didn't seem too. Anyone know if there's a 'story' of some sort behind this? Was one of them injured or did they just decide to wrestle like that just to change it up a little.

Reminds me of when Kane did a rana and that time The Giant did kip up in WCW(I know he was smaller then but still). Basically I like big guys doing unexpected stuff like that. It...intrigues me. Not when it's overdone but like once in a blue moon.
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For the sake of it:

Top 10 IYH matches:
1 - Taker/HBK Badd Blood
2 - HBK/Mankind Mind Games
3 - 10-Man Tag Canadian Stampede
4 - Bret/Bulldog Seasons Beatings
5 - HBK/Diesel Good Friends Bitter Enemies
6 - HBK/Jarrett The Lumberjacks
7 - Austin/Vega Beware Of Dog
8 - TAKA/Sasuke Canadian Stampede
9 - Austin/Bret/Taker/Vader Final Four
10 - Austin/Rock Backlash

Even though most of its events were pretty much one-match shows (with the exception of very few, particularly Canadian Stampede, St. Valentine's Day Massacre and Backlash), it did produce some of the GOAT WWF/E matches
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Just watched THAT Kane vs. Big Show mach that I've heard people talking about.



The randomness of it. Besides the ending I actually liked it though, however the crowd didn't seem too. Anyone know if there's a 'story' of some sort behind this? Was one of them injured or did they just decide to wrestle like that just to change it up a little.

Reminds me of when Kane did a rana and that time The Giant did kip up in WCW(I know he was smaller then but still). Basically I like big guys doing unexpected stuff like that. It...intrigues me. Not when it's overdone but like once in a blue moon.
They were a team at the time, and Kane was going crazy every now and then leading up to the May 19th crap, and had attacked Show one of the times. So they had a match, but Show wanted to show Kane that he was still his friend so he thought wrestling like that would be fun and prove to Kane that he didn't want to hurt him and shit. Fun match.
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Christian vs. Alberto Del Rio
Ladder Match for the World Heavyweight Championship
Extreme Rules


Damn there were some really vicious spots in this thing. The arm breaker from Del Rio standing on the mini ladder to Christian standing on the big one was pretty sick. Del Rioís focus on the arm in the latter part of the match is really good. I especially liked the cross arm breaker through the mini ladder. Speaking of the mini ladder, Christian just fucking it into Brodus Clay busted him the hell open. I donít know if anybody else noticed that but there was a pool of blood on the outside from Clayís head. Nasty shot. Del Rio gets backdropped from the apron into the ring and right onto a ladder. Both guys are taking their fair share of bumps in this thing. The worst of them all was Del Rioís splash into the ladder that was sitting between the announce table and the ring apron. He landed really awkwardly too for that matter. The match really comes to life after that spot with Clay and Edge making appearances. Christian wins it with Edge there watching him in a truly special moment almost 20 years in the making. Iím no Christian fan but that was great to see. Brilliant match with some big bumps and awesome spots throughout.

****1/4

Randy Orton vs. Christian
World Heavyweight Championship
May 6th, Friday Night Smackdown


This match will live in infamy for the utter rage that erupted over the result lol. Anyways, I thought the commentary was actually good for a change and only served to compliment the story of the feud to come. Christian, the unproven champion against the multiple time and legitimate champion, Randy Orton. This match was excellent. Fact paced, action packed, crisp and exciting. Canít wait to watch their OTL encounter.

****

Randy Orton vs. Christian
World Heavyweight Championship
Over The Limit


I loved this the last time I watched it and couldnít wait to watch it again. It didnít disappoint. What. A. Fucking. Match. I was completely glued to the screen. These guys just work and their chemistry has to be up there with the other great duos. I also think the storyline is really underrated. Itís fantastic and just fits with the dynamic of the matches so well. Once again this was fast paced and full of action. Never a dull moment. The crowd is hot and split which adds to the atmosphere as well. The RKO/Killswitch reversal into a back Boston crab I think it was, that was awesome and something new from Orton. Probably my favourite moment in the match was the RKO fake from Christian. That was brilliant. He lost the last match that way and faked Orton into thinking he was going do it again only to roll him up for a near fall. Just brilliant. Then thereís Ortonís moment of realization where the light bulb goes off in his head. How the hell can I win this thing? Thatís right, the PUNT! He goes for the punt kick but second guesses himself. He wants to win the match but does he want to end Christianís career? Enthralling character work and this is something that Orton excels at imo. His expressions and mannerisms tell the story. This also comes into play later in the feud when Christian turns heel. Orton goes for it again only to get nailed with a spear. I bought into it and thought it was over. Place is going nuts now and Orton finally wins it in the end with the RKO. Fucking fantastic. This has gone up since my last watch and I loved it so much I watched it again. Why donít more people love this? Seriously. Itís awesome and I canít rave about it enough. Just brilliant from start to finish.

****3/4 and my new MOTY so far.

Randy Orton vs. Christian
World Heavyweight Championship
Capitol Punishment


This match has an entirely different feel to it right from the get go. It isnít a respectful battle between 2 champions trying to prove who is the best. This one is much more of a fight. They play off the concussion suffered by Orton beautifully and Ortonís selling is borderline fantastic. Letís call it really good. Any time his head takes some impact, heís selling it like a bossÖuntil he starts pounding the mat waiting for the RKO lol but other than that, itís good. Christian goes for the spear, Orton leap frogs and goes for the RKO, Christian blocks and hits the spear. Great near fall. Once again things ends with an RKO. This is probably the worst match in their series but in saying that, itís still a good match and lays the foundation for the Summerslam No DQ match between them the next month.

***1/2

I'll be watching the Summerslam match possibly later on or if I don't get time tomorrow. Orton/Christian though . I think they get overlooked due to Punk/Cena in 2011 but this series needs more love if you ask me. Absolutely fantastic stuff here. Looking forward to their NO DQ bout.
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They were a team at the time, and Kane was going crazy every now and then leading up to the May 19th crap, and had attacked Show one of the times. So they had a match, but Show wanted to show Kane that he was still his friend so he thought wrestling like that would be fun and prove to Kane that he didn't want to hurt him and shit. Fun match.
Oh okay, yeah that does make sense. JR was speaking about sportsmanship between them but I forgot that they were friends around this time before Kane started to freak out about May 19th. Thanks.
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The Christian/Orton program definitely gets a lot of love, though I'm only a fan of the Smackdown match and huge fan of OTL where I felt they had the best dynamic: Christian as the underdog babyface with Orton as the proverbial glass ceiling he has to beat to ascend up the ranks of WWE. Minute Christian turned I lost great interest. Didn't think Christian as the heel was nearly as engaging, sympathetic and prone to working smart spots (such as the RKO fakeout as a callback in the SD match) as he was as a babyface and thought both CP and MITB were far lesser bouts. MITB more so with it being more of an angle advancer to prolong the feud into Summerslam. Didn't like the DQ stip even if Christian trying to taunt Orton made sense: it just wasn't what I wanted to see. Summerslam I'm not a big fan of, suffers from some of the pitfalls of WWE gimmick matches these days with how it doesn't differentiate itself in terms of structure and presentation. Too many of the bumps felt elaborate and gunning for a grand reaction as opposed to conveying hate and selling the end of the feud. The finish was also one of those blatantly setup spots that made no logical sense other than for Orton to hit the RKO.

OTL match is brilliant though, even if I think Christian is the better guy by a fair bit in it. He drove the match with his vulnerability, desire to prove to himself and the world that he could beat Orton as well as him incorporating some very smart spots you associate with babyface Christian. Orton was very good and definitely proved this is where he can work best under the current Viper character (withholding on the punt nearly costing him was a very smart nearfall), but I think Christian's sympathy and character made an emotional attachment apparent which combined with the smart pacing, timing of the counters and way the nearfalls were built to created that atmosphere.

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Rock & Roll Express/Midnight Express ****1/4


Great American Bash 7/7/90

Midnight Express/Southern Boys ****1/2
Good to see Rock n Roll Express/Midnight Express and Midnight Express/Southern Boys from WCW 1990 get some love. Check out Midnight Express/Fantastics from 4/26/88 as well. At this point would happily call it the best tag in US history.

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Just seen Great American Bash 2005:

MNM-Heindrich/Animal- **
Christian/Booker T- **1/2
Benoit/O.Jordan- US Title- **3/4
Taker/Muhammed Hassan- **
Mexicools/BWO- DUD
Mysterio/E. Guerrero- ***
T.Wilson/Melina- DUD
Batista/JBL- **1/2

Thoughts: This show was really horrible, even Rey/Eddie wasn't that good, I gave the match a *** rating, because it was great to see a nice match after 3 bad ones. Batista/JBL wasnt that bad, only that the end was stupid, that's not really the best way to end a bad PPV
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