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Old 02-06-2013, 08:46 AM   #16681 (permalink)
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Since Swagger is all Super American Man now and Del Rio has transformed into Mr. Mexico, anybody think that's going to be our Mania WHC match? Heel USA vs. Face Mexico lol. Swagger renamed his ankle lock the Patriot Act I read somewhere.

Sorry, back to your deep and meaningful....
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I dig Swagger's new look. And FINALLY he's not coming out the ring jumping up and down like a goddamn retard. As for the ankle lock being called the Patriot Act....what.....the....fuck. Seriously, WWE. Why you gotta fuck things up?

I don't know how far he'll go now but hey at least they got me to care about the guy again.
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We'd be like Walter White and Jesse Pinkman if Cody fecking watched Breaking Bad. Guess that makes us Troy and Abed since we both watch Community. Or Liz Lemon and Jack Donaghy. Was there a point to this post? There may have been but I'm fucked if I remember what it was.

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That's something that seems to get lost on people. Like when I come down on hard on a wrestler such as Kofi Kingston or Matt Morgan, I back it up. I'll give you as to WHY I think (if not know) they're bad or were bad in that particular match. There always has to be a reason there. Not simply "I didn't like it b/c I didn't like it." tripe. Or the worst of the bunch: using the promotions booking to dictate who's worthless or not. Much like the chuds who's apparently labeled Jack Swagger as the most pointless guy on the WWE roster. A comment I can't begin to wrap my brain around. So he's awful on the mic & jobbed last year. That makes him useless? Doesn't his new and apparent revival atm mean the company is trying to build him up again aka make him worth something? Scoffing it off b/c you're not a fan is pretty lousy considering the tirade against him.

I saw his first post in there and already agreed with him. It was funny. All he had to say was "He is better than Angle" and it worked. Then he proceeded to apparently back it up (I didn't see his post, but I have to know it was quality) only to have to obvious reply come back at him. KO Bossy. Yeah, that guy is horrible. He'll find any positive thing about Danielson and try to squash it for whatever reason. Even though he can't. Which makes him look very dense. Not to mention he made a post in the WCW thread today about how he couldn't ever find Mysterio a believable worker when not against Cruiserweights. What a thought process.

We're not the only ones in here? I'm gobsmacked by this tidbit of information.
Yeah he made a great overview of Bryan as a face, heel, structuring his matches better, being a better seller, having better offence which he timed and implemented into the context of a match better, being more versatile in working opponents of varying size as well as brawls, title matches, veteran vs underdog etc. Course it was treated as blasphomy because it critiqued Angle despite Saint Dick's post being by far the more balanced and tame in relation to any negative outlook on Angle's style.

Yeah I gave up long ago trying to reason with some folk in that section. When people brought up Angle being an Olympic Gold Medal winner as if it had any relevance to him as a 'pro wrestling worker' as opposed to a natural wrestler I just focused all my efforts and thoughts into this thread, where even if I disagree with people I can at least do so in balanced and interesting discussion.
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I'm all for the Swagger push for now but i'm pretty sure by the summer the guy will be jobbing to Santino/Brodus again.

I'm watching the main event from Vengeance 2007 right now, the one with Booker, Lashley, Cena, Orton & FOLEY? I <3 Foley but this was 2007 and he was in a WWE CHAMPIONSHIP match?! For the match itself it's a clusterfuck, a fun one but a clusterfuck nonetheless. They keep trying to do an epic Cena/Lashley staredown and the crowd just don't give a shit and why would they?

Ahh it's just finished, Poor Foley taking the pinfall.

**1/2 for me on first watch since it happened.
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We'd be like Walter White and Jesse Pinkman if Cody fecking watched Breaking Bad. Guess that makes us Troy and Abed since we both watch Community. Or Liz Lemon and Jack Donaghy. Was there a point to this post? There may have been but I'm fucked if I remember what it was.



Yeah he made a great overview of Bryan as a face, heel, structuring his matches better, being a better seller, having better offence which he timed and implemented into the context of a match better, being more versatile in working opponents of varying size as well as brawls, title matches, veteran vs underdog etc. Course it was treated as blasphomy because it critiqued Angle despite Saint Dick's post being by far the more balanced and tame in relation to any negative outlook on Angle's style.

Yeah I gave up long ago trying to reason with some folk in that section. When people brought up Angle being an Olympic Gold Medal winner as if it had any relevance to him as a 'pro wrestling worker' as opposed to a natural wrestler I just focused all my efforts and thoughts into this thread, where even if I disagree with people I can at least do so in balanced and interesting discussion.
Well I sort of grasp the Walter & Pinkman relationship. The other two would be much more fitting. I guess I'll have to be Abed & Lemon in their respective roles. I'm peculiar & apparently more feminine than the bunch. I'll take it.

It's when there can't be the logical retort back, that's when you throw your hands up and just say you're done. Especially when there was no rebuttal back and your point is left standing high and mighty. I think anyone who scoffs off the post to take the time and elaborate one's thought process, is really admitting defeat right then and there. That or they can't believe their favorite wrestler is getting some negative feedback or not put over every other wrestler out there.

Oh I've been done. I occasionally get roped into a discussion in the TNA section and that never ends well for the one opposing me it seems. I wouldn't make the points I do if I didn't have a reason behind them. @ someone bringing up Kurt's gold medal as a frame of reference on his wrestling career. That sounds like something Taz would legit use to put over Kurt.
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Well I sort of grasp the Walter & Pinkman relationship. The other two would be much more fitting. I guess I'll have to be Abed & Lemon in their respective roles. I'm peculiar & apparently more feminine than the bunch. I'll take it.

It's when there can't be the logical retort back, that's when you throw your hands up and just say you're done. Especially when there was no rebuttal back and your point is left standing high and mighty. I think anyone who scoffs off the post to take the time and elaborate one's thought process, is really admitting defeat right then and there. That or they can't believe their favorite wrestler is getting some negative feedback or not put over every other wrestler out there.

Oh I've been done. I occasionally get roped into a discussion in the TNA section and that never ends well for the one opposing me it seems. I wouldn't make the points I do if I didn't have a reason behind them. @ someone bringing up Kurt's gold medal as a frame of reference on his wrestling career. That sounds like something Taz would legit use to put over Kurt.
And I'm black as 3am, have a nerdy interest I try to hide with brash dialogue and confidence whilst also professing to always wear a suit after 6pm, on account of me not being a farmer.

Yeah I always think to myself, what's more laughable: someone's opinion or the person who finds that opinion laughable yet can't offer anything worthwhile to the contrary? If you call someone's opinion a load of shit and then prove yourself unable to offer anything better than 'a load of shit' then you're basically admitting you yourself can't even make a post that amounts to a load of shit.

It was ironically enough in that Bryan thread. Someone said something along the lines of 'come back to me when Bryan's won a gold medal'. As if that had any relevance to professional wrestling and the intagibles and characteristics that make a good/great worker. Oh lordy lordy.
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And I'm black as 3am, have a nerdy interest I try to hide with brash dialogue and confidence whilst also professing to always wear a suit after 6pm, on account of me not being a farmer.

Yeah I always think to myself, what's more laughable: someone's opinion or the person who finds that opinion laughable yet can't offer anything worthwhile to the contrary? If you call someone's opinion a load of shit and then prove yourself unable to offer anything better than 'a load of shit' then you're basically admitting you yourself can't even make a post that amounts to a load of shit.

It was ironically enough in that Bryan thread. Someone said something along the lines of 'come back to me when Bryan's won a gold medal'. As if that had any relevance to professional wrestling and the intagibles and characteristics that make a good/great worker. Oh lordy lordy.
Ian Duncan isn't black though.

That's my mindset. If I'm gonna take the time to call someone out on a point then I'm damn sure going to back it up. Not say "OH, NO THAT'S STUPID" or something moronic of the sort. Sometimes you get those or sometimes you get the DualShock type responses. Don't know which is worse.

It's comments like that which make the reputation of some sections so aberrant and filled with a stigma. Sheesh.
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You still believe McQueen's accusations? The man is not a reputable scholar and such poppycock and hogwash is nothing but mere slander.

Yup, people really ought to think more before they post around here. Luckily this thread seems to be the safe haven in terms of frank and honest discussion where thought and reasoning is the norm.
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It's almost too good to believe so I'll fight my natural urges and go with it. Do you wear a scarf while watching football and looking like you came from a game of Quidditch?

Ah yes. The sanctity of this thread. Intelligent discussions on a daily basis and it hardly ever gets tampered with. I think it's safe. How? Not sure. I'll leave it be and let it continue to grow as one of the best kept secrets of WF.
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I'll attempt TV matches:

2000 - The Big Show, X-Pac & Triple H Vs The Rock, Kane & Cactus Jack - WWF Raw 21/02 (I might be the only person to prefer this to the big 8 man tag)

2001 - The Dudley Boys Vs The Hardy Boys Vs Edge & Christian Vs Chris Jericho & Chris Benoit (TLC III) - WWF Smackdown 24/05

2002 - Eddie Guerrero Vs Rob Van Dam (Ladder) - WWE Raw 27/05

2003 - Brock Lesnar Vs Kurt Angle (Iron Man) - WWE Smackdown 18/09

2004 - Chris Benoit, Shawn Michaels, Mick Foley & Shelton Benjamin Vs Triple H, Randy Orton, Batista & Ric Flair - WWE Raw 12/04

2005 - Eddie Guerrero Vs Rey Mysterio - WWE Smackdown 23/06

2006 - Chris Benoit Vs Randy Orton - WWE Smackdown 13/01

2007 - Finlay Vs Rey Mysterio - WWE Smackdown 09/11

2008 - ???

2009 - Christian Vs Jack Swagger - ECW 24/02

2010 - Christian & Kane Vs William Regal & Ezekiel Jackson - ECW 26/01

2011 - William Vs Dean Ambrose - FCW 06/11

2012 - Sheamus Vs Daniel Bryan - Raw 30/07
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