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My MOTY's from 1995 on (w/runner-ups):

1995: Bret Hart vs. The British Bulldog (Season's Beatings) - (RU: HBK/Ramon from SSlam)
1996: Shawn Michaels vs. Mankind (Mind Games) - RU: Bret/Austin from SS
1997: Bret Hart vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin (WrestleMania 13) - RU: Taker/HBK from Badd Blood
1998: The Rock vs. Triple H (SummerSlam) - RU: Taker/Mankind from KOTR
1999: E&C vs. The Hardys (No Mercy) - RU: Mankind/Rock from RR
2000: Triple H vs. Cactus Jack (Royal Rumble) - RU: Rock/HHH from JD
2001: The Rock vs. Stone Cold Steve Austin (WrestleMania 17) - RU: Austin/HHH from NWO
2002: Elimination Chamber (Survivor Series) - RU: HHH/HBK from SSlam
2003: Team Austin vs. Team Bischoff (Survivor Series) - RU: Angle/Benoit from RR
2004: Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Chris Benoit (WrestleMania 20) - RU: BORK/Eddie from NWO
2005: Kurt Angle vs. Shawn Michaels (WrestleMania 21) - RU: Angle/HBK from Vengeance
2006: Kurt Angle vs. The Undertaker (No Way Out) - RU: Fatal 4-Way Ladder Match from Armageddon
2007: John Cena vs. Shawn Michaels (Raw April 27) - RU: Batista/Taker from WM23
2008: Chris Jericho vs. Shawn Michaels (No Mercy) - RU: Taker/Edge from SSlam
2009: The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels (WrestleMania 25) - RU: Rey/Jericho from Bash
2010: The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels (WrestleMania 26) - RU: Bryan/Ziggler from BR
2011: John Cena vs. CM Punk (Money In The Bank) - RU: Taker/HHH from WM27
2012: The Undertaker vs. Triple H (WrestleMania 28) - RU: BORK/Cena from ER

Indeed, KOK. This isn't exactly just a MOTY's list, as it is more like The Undertaker Show out here.

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My memory will be a little fuzzy for a few years, but I'll give the TV MOTYs a shot -

2000 - DX vs. Cactus Jack/Rocky/Too Cool
2001 - Two man Power Trip vs. Jericho and Benoit
2002 - TLC? Need refreshing
2003 - BORK/Benoit
2004 - Evolution vs. Cactus Jack/Benoit/Benjamin/HBK
2005 - Eddie vs. Rey
2006 - Not so sure
2007 - Cena vs. Michaels
2008 - Not so sure
2009 - Swags/Christian or Punk/Hardy Steel Cage
2010 - Didn't watch, other than a few PPV matches I've caught up on. Probably a Christian/Regal match
2011 - Drew/Masters, Bryan/Henry steel cage or Cena/Rey
2012 - Punk/Henry I or Ambrose/Regal II (from FCW, if that counts?)

I'm forgetting a lot, but those were the matches that stood out and slapped me in the face.


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2002 : Brock Lesnar vs The Undertaker (No Mercy) : ****3/4
2003 : Brock Lesnar vs Kurt Angle (SummerSlam) : *****
2004 : Triple H vs Shawn Michaels vs Chris Benoit (Wrestlemania XX) : ****3/4
2005 : The Undertaker Vs Randy Orton (Armageddon) : ****1/2
2006 : The Undertaker vs Kurt Angle (No Way Out) : ****3/4
2007 : The Undertaker Vs Batista (WrestleMania XXII) : ****1/2
2008 : The Undertaker vs Edge (Wrestlemania XXIV) : ****1/2
2009 : The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels (Wrestlemania XXV) : *****
2010 : The Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels (Wrestlemania XXVI) : *****
2011 : The Undertaker Vs Triple H (WrestleMania XXVII) : ****3/4
2012 : CM Punk Vs Daniel Bryan (Over the Limit) : ****3/4
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This lack of appreciation towards 2010 displeases me.

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Not gonna post all because generally a few years will have the same match, so will just add individual thoughts.

2002 might honestly be one of the Booker/Goldust vs Christian/Jericho matches, the final one I believe in December.

2003 - Lesnar/Benoit is a good shout. Lesnar/Mysterio is excellent as well but the Benoit story and booking over the course of the night edges Lesnar/Benoit ahead. However I'd go Eddie/Tajiri vs Team Angle 5/22. Amazing tag match featuring a brilliant Eddie performance on the apron and in the ring. Tajiri plays a great role and Team Angle are fine dissecting the faces with some great tag team wrestling.

2004 would be Benoit/Edge/Jericho vs Orton/Batista/Flair 6/14. Love the booking and build to Orton/Benoit, Benoit being booked excellently as the defiant champion and both Batista but to a greater extent Orton having tremendous showcases. Eddie/Show from April 2004 on Smackdown also shouldn't be overlooked. Arguably one of the most smartest and intricate matches I've seen and a great Eddie performance that typifies what makes him the heralded performer he is.

2006 has to Finlay/Benoit 5/5 or Orton/Rey 4/7. I'd probably lean for Orton/Mysterio just because of how great the chemistry is as well as it being worked like a classic title match with Orton putting in a remarkable performance for someone of his age complimented by Mysterio being in peak form. Finlay/Benoit is violent, beautiful and everything you want from both of them, but I have to just give Orton/Rey the edge.

2007 honest to god has to be Finlay/Matt from Smackdown 6/22. I get Cena/Michaels will likely be the default answer, but fuck Matt's performance is to me the best babyface performance in a match all year on TV (Cena at the Rumble would be #1) and his selling is exquisite and complimented by Finlay's maticulous approach. Just everything I want in a match these days.

2008 is a bit of a blindspot in all honesty. Did Regal/Punk have a couple of matches before the end of the feud in January '09? Will go for one of them if nothing else jumps out at me and they indeed did have TV matches in 08.

2009 is Swagger/Christian 2/24. Nothing comes close imo despite my love of the Punk/Hardy Steel Cage encounter.

2010? Masters/Mcintyre and Goldust/Regal from 8/26 Superstars are majestic. Cena/Bourne vs Sheamus/Edge is the best Raw produced and a wonderful bit of booking and presentation to push Bourne in the eyes of the fans. Cena is excellent on the apron and Bourne plays FIP as well as you would associate him in that role. Rey/Punk 2/12 is neck and neck with Christian/Mcintyre 7/30 for best Smackdown match of the year. Big fan of Swagger/Mysterio as well from June I believe. Swagger was champion and dropped it at the PPV in June so its May or early June. Would go for Christian/Mcintyre overall. Brilliant selling, wonderful control segment, majestic transition spot, great pacing, timing and execution of the babyface comeback. Nothing to pick at.

2011 would be a toss up of Regal/Ambrose I, Henry/Bryan Steel Cage or Cena/Mysterio. I'll go for Henry/Bryan. Great performance from both with Henry being the better guy imo. Bryan being elevated in stature, great execution of the stipulation, callback spots to their early matches with Bryan using the injured ankle as a means to find a counter to everything Henry throws at him, some genuine nearfalls for Bryan as well as Henry selling the injury to convey vulnerability whilst retaining his monster aura as well as anyone sold all year.

2012 would be Regal/Ambrose II for me. Beautiful booking and culmination of the angle. Great Regal performance as the violent technician before one upping himself by playing a fallen and battered babyface even better. Ambrose sells the beatdown beautifully and is wonderfully maniacal on offence late in the match. Violent, nasty, structured perfectly, builds off of the first match and entire feud and has a genuinly smart and perfect ending. Henry/Punk 4/2 from Raw is comfortably #2.
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All of the Regal vs Punker matches were from 2009. First 3 weeks till Punk finally trumped him to win the Intercontinental Championship.

I knew you would be the other guy besides myself to pick Finlay vs Benoit from 5/5/06 as (one of) your favorites from TV that year. That was my clear cut favorite. I'd have to relive a Finlay vs Mysterio match to see if that could come close. Doubt it.

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All of the Regal vs Punker matches were from 2009. First 3 weeks till Punk finally trumped him to win the Intercontinental Championship.

I knew you would be the other guy besides myself to pick Finlay vs Benoit from 5/5/06 as (one of) your favorites from TV that year. That was my clear cut favorite. I'd have to relive a Finlay vs Mysterio match to see if that could come close. Doubt it.
Ah fair enough, had it in my head they started the feud late December time. Nothing else jumps out immediately from 08 though. Maybe a Matt Hardy or Mark Henry match from ECW? HHH/Hardy was on PPV, Cena doesn't have a match that rings a bell apart from the NWO and NOC encounters with Orton & HHH.

Yup, ya got me . Their 11/24 match isn't far behind either. Finlay/Mysterio 3/24 is generally regarded as their best from that year and in general. Only 9/11/07 (or 11/9, forget which date) is usually put in the same bracket due to the length and structure.

Thoughts on Finlay/Matt from 6/22/07 btw if you're familiar with it? Its excellent and legit a top 100 match for 2000-09, tempted to put it top 60 on my eventual ballot.
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Ah fair enough, had it in my head they started the feud late December time. Nothing else jumps out immediately from 08 though. Maybe a Matt Hardy or Mark Henry match from ECW? HHH/Hardy was on PPV, Cena doesn't have a match that rings a bell apart from the NWO and NOC encounters with Orton & HHH.

Yup, ya got me . Their 11/24 match isn't far behind either. Finlay/Mysterio 3/24 is generally regarded as their best from that year and in general. Only 9/11/07 (or 11/9, forget which date) is usually put in the same bracket due to the length and structure.

Thoughts on Finlay/Matt from 6/22/07 btw if you're familiar with it? Its excellent and legit a top 100 match for 2000-09, tempted to put it top 60 on my eventual ballot.
Yeah, Hardy and Henry duked it out a few times on ECW. They're fun. Think the one post Summerslam is GREAT actually. Off the top of my head I think one of, if not my favorite WWE TV match from 2008 was John Cena & Cryme Tyme vs JBL, Cody Rhodes, & Ted Dibiase Jr from 7/14. iirc it was worked as a southern style bout and it totally rocked. I'd probably have to go to something like Taker vs Show in the cage or quite a few from ECW to really lock in my favorites. I'm a bit murky myself, which surprises me. I know if I looked at the ECW listing atm things would click. Not to mention seeing a LOT of these matches only a few times years ago. (pardon some that made DVD sets like Jeff Hardy's last one which had some good matches vs Cena & Morrison)

I wished I could tell you, but that's one of those gems that is lost on me. No doubt saw it upon it's original airdate. That had to of been the last time. If I take a break from all of the stuff I got on my plate atm and look for every Finlay match from WWE return I'll be able to tell you all of his brilliance. (seriously think he had the greatest match under 2 minutes vs Drew McIntyre in late 2009)

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Yeah, Hardy and Henry duked it out a few times on ECW. They're fun. Think the one post Summerslam is GREAT actually. Off the top of my head I think one of, if not my favorite WWE TV match from 2008 was John Cena & Cryme Tyme vs JBL, Cody Rhodes, & Ted Dibiase Jr from 7/14. iirc it was worked as a southern style bout and it totally rocked. I'd probably have to go to something like Taker vs Show in the cage or quite a few from ECW to really lock in my favorites. I'm a bit murky myself, which surprises me. I know if I looked at the ECW listing atm things would click. Not to mention seeing a LOT of these matches only a few times years ago. (pardon some that made DVD sets like Jeff Hardy's last one which had some good matches vs Cena & Morrison)

I wished I could tell you, but that's one of those gems that is lost on me. No doubt saw it upon it's original airdate. That had to of been the last time. If I take a break from all of the stuff I got on my plate atm and look for every Finlay match from WWE return I'll be able to tell you all of his brilliance. (seriously think he had the greatest match under 2 minutes vs Drew McIntyre in late 2009)
Cool, might try and find that 6 man and see if its as good as you're saying. Can't go wrong with southern style tags .

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2c...2#.URJbP2c77BY

Thought I'd save you the trouble of searching for it . Watch, marvel, rejoice, proclaim Finlay to be the greatest Irishman since George Best and wonder at how Matt Hardy can still be called a subpar worker. Life's greatest mysteries await you.

Finlay's run from 06-08 and then sparese matches in 09 on Superstars and ECW was such a majestic run. He's the wrestler of the year for 2006 alongside Danielson and was just amazing to watch from week to week. Faced the best and worst Smackdown had to offer and never disappointed. Callihan series from 2011-2012 in EVOLVE and WXW produced 2 of the best Indy matches in a few years as well.

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Now if that 6 man doesn't hold up, don't come looking for me with a pitchfork knowing you had to stomach a JTG match. This is all memory here.

FINLAY. I've exhausted my compliments for the man. Regal too. They're simply gods and that's that with me.

Matt Hardy. I'll always like and appreciate the work of the guy. I need to see this match. I watch his most recent match from ROH TV and it was horrible. Which was weird b/c his match on their big event - Final Battle - was good. He did work vs Adam Cole. So, that could have something to do with it. Granted, Matt played his cocky "I'm a superstar" heel role very well.

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