Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread - Page 1663 - Wrestling Forum : WWE, TNA, Debate League, Wrestling Videos, Women of Wrestling Forums
Closed Thread

Old 02-05-2013, 09:02 PM   #16621 (permalink)
Still the GOAT
 
Evan Stays TRIPPY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Revis Island
Posts: 4,785
Evan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missed
Default Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Don't remind me of Taker-Trips from KOTR. FUCK THAT SHIT. Their match at INSX 2002 is surprisingly good though, check that ish out. Trips-Kozlov is horrendous in it's own right but not Trips' worst match ever for sure. Just insanely dull.
__________________




"He's not the biggest. He was never the strongest. He was never the fastest. He was overlooked. He went in the sixth round. So with that being said, all of the intangibles that a quarterback is supposed to have, they overlooked it with him because it was burning from inside of him" - Ray Lewis on Tom Brady
Evan Stays TRIPPY is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 

Old 02-05-2013, 09:03 PM   #16622 (permalink)
Déesse de L'extase
 
Hayley Seydoux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Electric Chapel.
Posts: 32,941
Hayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whore
Default Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Choke2Death View Post
So you want me to criticize Orton? I'm pretty sure I've done it when it has been deserved. He might have had a chance at returning to the main event but screwed up with the suspension last year. Other than that, I don't think I can fault him for anything other than having had a piss poor attitude at times when he could've gone places. Him phoning in 310808135 matches against Barrett is something I can fully understand.

As for my sig... at least I'm not a Punk fan. You are an Orton fan and try to paint him as untalented despite recognize his greatness when he's at his best. There's a difference. I did that with Cena for a short period so if there's an instance of "pot kettle black", that was it.

On the topic of JD 02:

Angle/Edge - ★★★¼
Hogan/Undertaker - ★★★½ (Awesome!)


"paint him as untalented despite his recognize his greatness when he's at his best" Once again, so says the guy who has been seen constantly putting down Punk's best matches. I've never second guessed Orton's talent throughout his career. He once was great. That'll never change. It's not like the things I've said weren't echoed by about 3-4 other people right now. Only one that seems to be defending him, his current state, and the idea of phoning it in is yourself. Which doesn't come as a surprise to anyone.

There is a difference between recognizing talent and acknowledging when someone isn't doing anything noteworthy. Orton had good matches with Kane last year. I liked all of them. Had that good match with Sheamus on Smackdown. They feed well off of each other. Did he do anything else worth of note? Nope. Not really. That's just how it went. He's dipped in his ring work. Even when he was still more relevant it's shown. Doesn't matter what the basis for it is - that's the facts. Liking him to this day is one thing, but trying to tell me, or anyone else, I'm in the wrong for not giving him praise often is quite off.

Orton's lost that spark he had years ago where he was capable of being the driving force behind his matches. It wasn't there for long, but he had it once upon a time ago.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Smith_Jensen View Post
__________________
Femme Fatale - Angel in your temple of pleasure.
Dance. Sex. Art. Pop.
Hayley Seydoux is offline  
Old 02-05-2013, 09:11 PM   #16623 (permalink)
Special Attraction at Wrestlemania
 
Choke2Death's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2011
Posts: 21,513
Choke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREWChoke2Death is new to the CHATBOX CREW
Default Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by KingOfKings View Post
Don't remind me of Taker-Trips from KOTR. FUCK THAT SHIT. Their match at INSX 2002 is surprisingly good though, check that ish out. Trips-Kozlov is horrendous in it's own right but not Trips' worst match ever for sure. Just insanely dull.
What? You mean to tell me that you don't love this awesome moment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ArZOcrG8j0&t=23m28s

Quote:
Originally Posted by HayleySabin View Post


"paint him as untalented despite his recognize his greatness when he's at his best" Once again, so says the guy who has been seen constantly putting down Punk's best matches. I've never second guessed Orton's talent throughout his career. He once was great. That'll never change. It's not like the things I've said weren't echoed by about 3-4 other people right now. Only one that seems to be defending him, his current state, and the idea of phoning it in is yourself. Which doesn't come as a surprise to anyone.

There is a difference between recognizing talent and acknowledging when someone isn't doing anything noteworthy. Orton had good matches with Kane last year. I liked all of them. Had that good match with Sheamus on Smackdown. They feed well off of each other. Did he do anything else worth of note? Nope. Not really. That's just how it went. He's dipped in his ring work. Even when he was still more relevant it's shown. Doesn't matter what the basis for it is - that's the facts. Liking him to this day is one thing, but trying to tell me, or anyone else, I'm in the wrong for not giving him praise often is quite off.

Orton's lost that spark he had years ago where he was capable of being the driving force behind his matches. It wasn't there for long, but he had it once upon a time ago.
Meant to say "recognizing" and you added the first "his" before it. Now moving on...

I never said you're wrong. It just caught me by surprise that you would put Orton in the same place as Kofi Kingston and Sin Cara for your 'least favorites'. That's pretty much what I was thinking of when I said whatever I did. I know you absolutely HATE those guys and to put somebody you considered a favorite in the past there along with them seems to me like it's just too much.

And please don't tell me that I constantly put down Punk's best match just because I hate the MITB match with Bryan! Whenever he has a match I enjoy, I always give him credit. The Jericho match last night, match with The Rock, vs Cena at MITB and etc.
__________________
Choke2Death is offline  
Old 02-05-2013, 09:12 PM   #16624 (permalink)
Still the GOAT
 
Evan Stays TRIPPY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Revis Island
Posts: 4,785
Evan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missed
Default Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Match of the Year from 2002 anybody ?

My pick is Lesnar-Undertaker in the cell. The best cell match of all time that isn't the greatest match of all time by my estimations, and a top 25 WWF/WWE match ever. Was actually my favorite match ever for a short period of time back in 2005-2006ish. The pre match video package is one of the best ever too IMO. **** 3/4

BY THE WAY... People who call out Taker's selling in this match ? GO FUCK YOURSELF.
__________________




"He's not the biggest. He was never the strongest. He was never the fastest. He was overlooked. He went in the sixth round. So with that being said, all of the intangibles that a quarterback is supposed to have, they overlooked it with him because it was burning from inside of him" - Ray Lewis on Tom Brady
Evan Stays TRIPPY is offline  
Old 02-05-2013, 09:17 PM   #16625 (permalink)
Déesse de L'extase
 
Hayley Seydoux's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Electric Chapel.
Posts: 32,941
Hayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whoreHayley Seydoux is a rep whore
Default Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Quote:
Originally Posted by Choke2Death View Post
What? You mean to tell me that you don't love this awesome moment?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ArZOcrG8j0&t=23m28s



Meant to say "recognizing" and you added the first "his" before it. Now moving on...

I never said you're wrong. It just caught me by surprise that you would put Orton in the same place as Kofi Kingston and Sin Cara for your 'least favorites'. That's pretty much what I was thinking of when I said whatever I did. I know you absolutely HATE those guys and to put somebody you considered a favorite in the past there along with them seems to me like it's just too much.

And please don't tell me that I constantly put down Punk's best match just because I hate the MITB match with Bryan! Whenever he has a match I enjoy, I always give him credit. The Jericho match last night, match with The Rock, vs Cena at MITB and etc.
That's where his work is at for me right now. He's just not putting anything out there for me to enjoy or find as "special". I can't believe I've seen a better Sin Cara match from this year than something from Orton. To the credit, it was a tag match and it was mostly Mysterio doing the work for his team vs Hell No, but he was out there. Certainly working for Wade EVERY FRIGGIN WEEK sucks, but until I see otherwise he's going to be at the bottom of the barrel for me. I'm very over the guy and if the marking comes back I'll be surprised, quite frankly. Happy, i'm sure. But, surprised nonetheless.

Fair enough, I did what you did and relied off of one specific post. I thought I saw you say you didn't think Punk's work vs Danielson @ Over The Limit was "nothing special" either, so I used that to stomach up my comment. I still don't get the hate on the MITB match. I friggin love the hell out of it. But, we both know that. You actually liked his match vs Rock? Well, that's a new one. I even gave Punk grief for not doing anything noteworthy during that mess, haha.

Oh good grief @ posting The Undertaker vs Triple H from KOTR. That match SUCKS. Why are their matches so hit and miss?
__________________
Femme Fatale - Angel in your temple of pleasure.
Dance. Sex. Art. Pop.
Hayley Seydoux is offline  
Old 02-05-2013, 09:43 PM   #16626 (permalink)
Ho!
 
#BadNewsSanta's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Somewhere
Posts: 14,240
#BadNewsSanta has posts worth reading#BadNewsSanta has posts worth reading#BadNewsSanta has posts worth reading#BadNewsSanta has posts worth reading#BadNewsSanta has posts worth reading#BadNewsSanta has posts worth reading#BadNewsSanta has posts worth reading#BadNewsSanta has posts worth reading#BadNewsSanta has posts worth reading#BadNewsSanta has posts worth reading#BadNewsSanta has posts worth reading
Default Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

MOTY 2002- Taker/Brock HIAC. Highest match at ****3/4, and what keeps me from going full five on it... at the risk of having to fuck myself at the demand of KingofKings, was Taker's selling towards the end of the match. I just don't see how a broken hand can't cause pain or even the slightest flinch in parts where Taker just didn't seem phased by using it, not to many other problems with it. But besides that the match is damn near flawless. #11 GOAT match.

On Punk/Jericho, ***3/4 from me and MOTY so far, with only Punk/Rock coming close to it at the same rating. Sheamus/Sandow tables match was a very good match and ***1/4, and the Del Rio/Show SD LMS gets *** from me. Del Rio/Ziggler was good as well and I'd put that at the same. Nothing else sticks out for me.
__________________
I've got some bad news...

#BadNewsSanta is offline  
Old 02-05-2013, 09:48 PM   #16627 (permalink)
THE CONQUEROR
 
RatedR10's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 4,857
RatedR10 probably won't be missedRatedR10 probably won't be missedRatedR10 probably won't be missedRatedR10 probably won't be missedRatedR10 probably won't be missedRatedR10 probably won't be missedRatedR10 probably won't be missedRatedR10 probably won't be missedRatedR10 probably won't be missedRatedR10 probably won't be missedRatedR10 probably won't be missed
Default Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Yeah, so far this year, I have Punk/Jericho from Raw last night as my match of the year with a ***3/4 rating. A bit better than Punk/Rock, which I gave a second viewing not too long ago. ADR/Show from Smackdown in the Last Man Standing match also gets a ***1/2 from me and is behind those matches.
__________________
RatedR10 is offline  
Old 02-05-2013, 09:58 PM   #16628 (permalink)
Still the GOAT
 
Evan Stays TRIPPY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Revis Island
Posts: 4,785
Evan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missedEvan Stays TRIPPY probably won't be missed
Default Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Punk/Ryback is my current MOTY @ *** 3/4. One of the best carry jobs I've seen in a really, really long time with Punk's selling of the knee being GOAT like. I wasn't a fan of the Punk-Rock match at ALL, and I LOVED last night's Punk-Jericho match and it could end up being the first four star WWE match of the year by the time I rewatch it.

It actually blows my mind at times because of just how BAD Ryback is. Seriously, his pacing is some of the worst ever, his move set being awkward as fuck, his selling non existent (even when he's supposed to sell, it sucks) , and his offense being some of the worst I've ever seen in my entire life. Just feels like there's no heart to it at all for some reason, something there should be out of a big time face. Stick him in matches like the TLC 6 man and watch him be good, but as a standard one on one worker with no gimmick attached he's arguably the worst in the company right now alongside the likes of SHIT CARA.
__________________




"He's not the biggest. He was never the strongest. He was never the fastest. He was overlooked. He went in the sixth round. So with that being said, all of the intangibles that a quarterback is supposed to have, they overlooked it with him because it was burning from inside of him" - Ray Lewis on Tom Brady
Evan Stays TRIPPY is offline  
Old 02-05-2013, 10:04 PM   #16629 (permalink)
Convinced Vince to make me a Main-Eventer
 
ShowStopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Hoboken, NJ
Posts: 12,418
ShowStopper is probably liked by SeabsShowStopper is probably liked by SeabsShowStopper is probably liked by SeabsShowStopper is probably liked by SeabsShowStopper is probably liked by SeabsShowStopper is probably liked by SeabsShowStopper is probably liked by SeabsShowStopper is probably liked by SeabsShowStopper is probably liked by SeabsShowStopper is probably liked by SeabsShowStopper is probably liked by Seabs
Default Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Predictable, but 2002 match of the year personally for me is HBK/Triple H. If you remember going into that match (I do, I was 19 at the time), no one really knew what kind of match to expect. I honestly didn't, either and back then I was as tuned into wrestling (both, the actual programming and dirt sheets/top internet sites) as one can be. WWE did a great job of keeping under wraps just what kind of shape HBK was in and if it would be more of a limited brawl type match (kind of like Bret-Vince at WM26) or if it would be a full-on wrestling match. Like I said, WWE did a fantastic job of keeping that shit under wraps. I legit did not know what type of match to expect going into that one. I honestly thought there might be a chance that it would be a limited brawl type of match (again, somewhat similar to the Bret/Vince match).

Thankfully, it wasn't. I was pretty blown away by what it was. And even if he was physically able to go full speed 100%, it's one thing to physically be able to do that in your 1st match in 4.5 years and it's a completely different thing to go out there and have that type of match in your first match in nearly 5 years. That shit blew me away and still does to this day. I know it sounds mark-ish, but that's fine by me, and that's what we do here. So be it.

The back work done by Triple H and selling by HBK is superb. The back-breakers on the chair were some of the first real bumps to HBKs back in 4.5 years. When Triple H had HBK up in the air and was getting ready to drop him on the open chair, you can literally hear the crowd gasp as Triple H drops HBK's back onto the chair. Even the sidewalk slams were getting a reaction from the crowd. The dastardy heel work done by Triple H was fantastic in this match. The story of Triple H being stuck in Shawn’s shadow the past 4 years, despite becoming a main eventer while Shawn was gone was masterfully told. Triple H wanted to end Shawn’s career once and for all while he flourished in the main event and became the new “main event and showstopper.” Crowd was with them all the way rooting for the babyface ol’ timer to win one last time. A great story was told. Pretty fucking epic. I just wish HBK didn’t wear those fucking jeans. Put one of your older attires on, plz.
__________________

Credit to ABrown

Last edited by ShowStopper : 02-05-2013 at 10:11 PM.
ShowStopper is online now  
Old 02-05-2013, 10:08 PM   #16630 (permalink)
Crumbled
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Infraction City
Posts: 12,541
Cookie Monster Cookie Monster Cookie Monster Cookie Monster Cookie Monster Cookie Monster Cookie Monster Cookie Monster Cookie Monster Cookie Monster Cookie Monster
Default Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

I'm going to agree with ShowStopper, HBK/HHH for me was just awesome.
Cookie Monster is offline  
Closed Thread



Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are On


VerticalSports
Baseball Forum Golf Forum Boxing Forum Snowmobile Forum
Basketball Forum Soccer Forum MMA Forum PWC Forum
Football Forum Cricket Forum Wrestling Forum ATV Forum
Hockey Forum Volleyball Forum Paintball Forum Snowboarding Forum
Tennis Forum Rugby Forums Lacrosse Forum Skiing Forums
Copyright (C) Verticalscope Inc Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2
Powered by vBulletin Copyright © 2000-2009 Jelsoft Enterprises Limited.
vBCredits v1.4 Copyright ©2007, PixelFX Studios