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Old 04-25-2012, 07:36 PM   #1611 (permalink)
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Anyway, I'm planning on watching Cena vs Orton Bragging Rights 2009, is it worth the hour?
Yes. The match is pure fun. Their 2009 series was just fun. Not great in terms of work-rate, but just very entertaining. The "Iron Man" match is ridiculous fun. They throw everything they have at each other, there are plenty of counters, and the match is non-stop action, even more impressive given that it's an hour long. Not a masterpiece of wrestling, but so much fun.

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Old 04-25-2012, 07:44 PM   #1612 (permalink)
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Need some opinions so I can get it tomorrow or Friday

If you can go for the blu ray, get that version. It has the complete Punk contract signing, Edge and Kane in their Last Man Standing match on SD, and a few other great extras exclusive to the blu ray. How much you enjoyed last year in Raw and Smackdown is gonna dictate how you feel about that set. I thought it was a good year and they cherry picked nearly all of the best, so I can recommend it easily.
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Most of the time its just a "feeling" I get when watching a match. If I'm not "feeling" it as being ***** then I'm not going to give it the full 5.

If Angle/Undertaker SD 03 match had a proper finish though, I'd likely go the full *****. Possibly the same for HBK/Mankind at Mindgames lol.
This is how I feel when I give a match 5 stars. A lot of people give HHH/HBK/Benoit WM 20 the full 5, or Bret/Owen, but to me I just never felt like they were 5 star matches. The last match that I really felt was 5 stars was Undertaker/HBK from Wrestlemania 25.

How does the Summerslam match between Punk and Cena compare to their MITB match? I heard that the wrestling in that match was much better, but I never hear people talking about it for some reason.
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Watched the 1st disc of the new edge blu ray, documentary was awesome (except from when they tried to make you feel sympathy for Edge over the Lita affair, wtf)

Matches I've seen so far:

Adam Impact vs Christian Cage - **1/2
Edge & Christian v Too Cool v TnA V Hardy's - King Of The Ring 2000 - ***1/2
Edge vs Eddie Guerrero - Smackdown 2002, No DQ - ****
Edge vs Randy Orton - Raw 2004 - ***1/2
Edge vs Matt Hardy (MITB Match) - Raw 2005 - ***1/4
Edge vs John Cena (TLC Match) - Unforgiven 2006 - ****1/4
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This is how I feel when I give a match 5 stars. A lot of people give HHH/HBK/Benoit WM 20 the full 5, or Bret/Owen, but to me I just never felt like they were 5 star matches. The last match that I really felt was 5 stars was Undertaker/HBK from Wrestlemania 25.

How does the Summerslam match between Punk and Cena compare to their MITB match? I heard that the wrestling in that match was much better, but I never hear people talking about it for some reason.
From a technical standpoint I would say it's the superior match, for me though, it's just not quite on the same level as MitB as far as spectacle goes. I do think there was still a very good atmosphere surrounding the match, and the crowd was still hot, but it's just not the same.

With how the WWE's booking can be, going in, much like the first match I wasn't sure who was going to win so that did add some intensity on the first viewing but obviously that changes on the rewatch. I would say that the fact the first match happened only a month earlier really didn't help things, I feel the build could've been so much better if they had given it a lot more time(which is a big problem the E have in general but that's a whole different kettle of fish).

This fits in with the whole 5 star match discussion well in that even though I don't generally do star ratings, if I did the MitB match would be 5 and the SS match would probably 4 and 3 quarters. As said before it doesn't have that something special.

But yeh, after that long-winded response....watch the match.

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I watched Angle V Taker No Way Out 06 last night. I love that match and it's one of my fav WHC WWE matches. Anyone else love it and think it's in the 4 stars or above range? I'm trying to think of a better match from 2006 but can't think of one.
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Wrestlemania 22 would have been one of my favourites if they had that match on the card instead of at No Way Out. Mania 22 really just lacked that amazing match and Angle/Taker would have been exactly that, especially with the two main events not delivering as such. If Batista didn't get injured I think they would have gone for a Batista vs. Orton WHC match with Taker/Angle being the second SD main event. Couple that with Edge/Foley, MITB, Vince/Shawn, Mickie/Trish and Cena/HHH (which I don't personally like but I know quite a few people do) and you have an amazing card and it probably would have been my favourite PPVs of all time and most certainly my most favourite WM of all time.
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I love WM 22, but it still could have been better with Angle/Undertaker taking place instead of the horrible triple threat and medicore as fuck casket match that we got instead.

HHH/Cena and Edge/Foley are both around the ****1/4 for me, then Mickie/Trish is ***1/4 and one of my fav women's matches ever, and almost everything else on the show is extremely fun even if they aren't exactly "great" or anything (tag title match, Vince Shawn, MITB which I consider to be the worst one still).
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Gave a few big matches some rewatches.

WWE Championship: Triple H vs. Randy Orton - WrestleMania XXV

I like this match more every time I watch it. I love how they both hit their finishers in the first minute or so. It was a very nice way of saying "yes, you have seen this match a million times before. To show you how this one will be different, the BEGINNING of the match is just like how the other ones ENDED, so you don't know where this is going." It also put the match in a nice climax mode, already, since the action didn't need to build.

I like how it was just a fight from the beginning. There were some sick moves, like Triple flipping Orton out of the ring with the punt. The closing minutes were really good, too, with a nice ref bump, and I LOVE the ending. Orton getting the sledgehammer, HHH surprising Orton with a punt, hitting Orton with the sledge, and then just beating the hell out of him. Without the ref, it showed just how badly he wanted to pummel him. The pedigree was to show he was going to kill Orton how he wanted. I love this ending.

Problem is, two matches before, UT/HBK was the best match of the year. The crowd is dead, the story HHH/Orton is trying to tell is not apparent (I didn't pick up on what it was going for until later viewings, I hated it live), and the whole match feels like a great grudge blow-off that would be better off in the middle of the card. It has a lot of storytelling and drama, and is not focused on the action...which doesn't work for the main event. The truth is, while there is no comparison in quality, look at UT/HHH HIAC and this match...they're both going for the same effect. Difference is, UT/HHH went on fifth. This match went on last. Knowing what we know now, WM should have gone like this: IC Title, MITB, Battle Royal, Hardy/Hardy, Legends match, HHH/Orton, WHC 3-way, UT/HBK.

I honestly believe it would have played a lot better in the middle of the card, because that's where it belonged. Some matches, even GREAT matches, shouldn't go on last, including UT/HHH HIAC. This match was just in the wrong place at the wrong time. But I see what it was going for, and I quite like it.

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