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**Saint Dick** · 01-29-2013, 04:49 PM

I was enjoying the Rumble match itself early on with Jericho and Goldust, then I got incredibly bored. Thought it dragged for a while up until the final six, which wasn't anything special either.

**The Lady Killer** · 01-29-2013, 04:50 PM

Just not enough star power imo. When you think of the only possible winners - Orton, Cena, Ryback, Sheamus, Ziggler, and the surprise being Jericho - there really isn't much room for excitement, especially since Orton/Cena/Sheamus have all won the event already.

holy · 01-29-2013, 04:55 PM

Some observations about WWE from 2003 (when i started watching) compared to 10 ten years later (2013)....

Back in 2003, there used to be Goldberg who would come out and say "YOUUUR NEEXT!" and spear the fuck out of his enemy. Now, 10 years later, there is a guy named Ryback, a Goldberg-wannabe who says "feed me more"

Back in 2003, I used to see "tale of the tape" for a big match like Undertaker vs Kurt Angle (on a smackdown). Now, 10 years later, there is a tale of the tape for John Cena and......Flinstone (wtf was that last night?!)

Back in 2003, on Raw Roulette, there was a cage match, a street fight, a singapore cane match. Now in 2013, on raw roulette, there is Tensai dressed in a lingerie (or whatever the fuck he was wearing) dancing.

(Yes, this is my random return to the forum. I don't know how many of you remember me, but just remember as the guy with the weird random username (holy)

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**AlienBountyHunter** · 01-29-2013, 04:56 PM

Do you guys think they brought Jericho out too early? I mean at the time it was great, I was shocked as I'm sure everyone was - plus obviously him and Ziggles have kayfabe history. But as Saint Dick said, the Rumble really faltered as it wore on and got pretty boring. Do you think Y2J coming out later would have helped this?

**Saint Dick** · 01-29-2013, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienBountyHunter

Do you guys think they brought Jericho out too early? I mean at the time it was great, I was shocked as I'm sure everyone was - plus obviously him and Ziggles have kayfabe history. But as Saint Dick said, the Rumble really faltered as it wore on and got pretty boring. Do you think Y2J coming out later would have helped this?

Maybe. I liked Jericho starting the match, and damn he got a big pop, but during the middle section of the match it just felt like there was a long period where I didn't care about any of the entrants. As TLK said, not enough star power.

Re-watched Punk/Rock. Wouldn't call it bad but don't think it was good either.

**AlienBountyHunter** · 01-29-2013, 05:23 PM

I would argue Punk/Rock was just hitting it's stride where you thought there was going to be some real excitement involving false finishes etc, but then the whole Shield/Lights out bit happened, and that just killed the match.

**Big Z** · 01-29-2013, 05:24 PM

I'm almost at the end of the Rumble now and I don't think it had any point where it got dull. We had Jericho #2, then a little bit after GOLDUST showed up, then a little later Sheamus, then a little later Cena, then a little later Rey (or was Rey before Cena?), then Bryan, then Kane, then Orton, then I guess Ryback (as a kind of "big name" anyway". I think it all flowed rather nicely. I'm definitely still a fan of it, it's held up rather well. ***1/4 for it. Not the best, but far from the worst.

**greendayedgehead** · 01-29-2013, 05:25 PM

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The venue SD is being held at says the show starts at 7 PM, but I thought they tape like 5 different shows prior?

edit Agreed, the match definitely didn't live up to its hype for me.

Yeah, Superstars/NXT/whatever the hell the first show to tape, starts right at seven.

I don't know what I thought about Punk/Rock. Was really disappointed in Show/Del Rio, but the WWE title match... It wasn't great, but it wasn't bad either. Right down the middle for me.

**Saint Dick** · 01-29-2013, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AlienBountyHunter

I would argue Punk/Rock was just hitting it's stride where you thought there was going to be some real excitement involving false finishes etc, but then the whole Shield/Lights out bit happened, and that just killed the match.

Fair point. It had some good elements to it and would've been a hell of a lot more satisfactory if we got a few false finishes, maybe even a ref bump, I dunno. Hated the lights out and restart. Felt like such an anti-climax when it should have been a huge moment (Punk's 434 day reign ending, Rock winning the title for the first time in 10 years). Even before the finish though the match never really drew me in. It was solid at times but also dragged a bit to me.

**The Lady Killer** · 01-29-2013, 05:34 PM

Def didn't feel as big of a moment as it should w/Punk's legendary reign ending and Rock's first title win in 10 years. I agree w/Ownage.