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Old 04-25-2012, 12:36 PM   #1591 (permalink)
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Whats the so called best matches you guys havent seen?

I cant believe ive yet to see Brock/Taker HIAC, nor anything from 08 that gets props (Jericho/Michaels, HHH/Hardy, HBK/Ric Flair).
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:37 PM   #1592 (permalink)
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Top 5 Cell matches:

1) Taker/HBK BB97- *****
2) Taker/Lesnar NM02- ****3/4
3) Taker/Edge SSlam 08- ****3/4
4) Batista/HHH Vengeance 05- ****1/2
5) Taker/Batista SS07- ****1/4 (This and Taker/Orton are practically tied, and I swap them around all the time)

Taker/Lesnar is the highest match at ****3/4 for me and really it's just Taker's selling that keeps me from putting it at *****, while Taker/Edge is on the lower end, but has everything you could want in a match in some degree in the match... both classics. Batista/HHH is both men's best cell match, and Taker/Batista was the match we always loved between them, but more brutal and with a cell around them. Taker/Orton for an honorable mention, was just such a great end to the rivalry.

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1) SS02- ****1/2
2) NYR05- ****1/4
3) World Title EC 09- ****1/4
4) World Title EC 2011- ****1/4
5) WWE Title EC 09- ****
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:39 PM   #1593 (permalink)
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Just rewatched Undertaker v Brock HIAC, It is definitely my favourite cell match, I'd give it ****1/2. The only reason it's not ***** for me is the selling of the hand by Taker, for the majority of the match he sold it very well but there were just a few moments that he didn't sell it. The biggest example was the chokeslam, he hit it and covered Brock all without a problem but then punched Brock with the hand and doubled over in pain, surely giving someone a chokeslam would hurt more than a punch, it's probably very nit picky but it took away from the match for me. Apart from that unbelievable match, the reversal of the tombstone into an F5 was amazing.

I'd say overall the Angle/Lesnar SS match for me was Brock's best match with this second and probably the iron man third
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:43 PM   #1594 (permalink)
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Question for yall who rate matches. I'd like to do this as well but never really tried to. I guess my question is if you are going to give something **** 3/4 is it something big that is keeping it from ***** or are you just being a picky smark? Im just curious and not calling anyone out. I forget the forum but some dude I have seen refuses to give a match ***** no matter what. This kind of defeats the whole purpose. I agree with a lot of the reviews on here and they are fun to read. Keep it up guys. I have just never taken the time to give *'s to matches and would like to start.
It does have a lot to do with being a picky smark, but I don't think there is anything wrong and I personally think it's a good thing.

My view on what a 5 star match should be is that it should be flawless in the eye of the viewer. Take for example Cena vs Punk MiTB. I adore that match but a few of the botches did suck me out of the moment. It's not perfect in my eyes and gets the ****3/4 rating.

I don't think anyone is in the position to call someone wrong on giving that match the full monty though. The match may not of perfect from a physical standpoint (an undeniable fact), but if the botches didn't negatively affect your viewing in anyway, then go ahead and give it the full five (if you think it warrants it, of course).
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Old 04-25-2012, 12:54 PM   #1595 (permalink)
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I have no shame giving Punk/Cena *****.
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:04 PM   #1596 (permalink)
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Most of the time its just a "feeling" I get when watching a match. If I'm not "feeling" it as being ***** then I'm not going to give it the full 5.

If Angle/Undertaker SD 03 match had a proper finish though, I'd likely go the full *****. Possibly the same for HBK/Mankind at Mindgames lol.
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Old 04-25-2012, 01:10 PM   #1597 (permalink)
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It does have a lot to do with being a picky smark, but I don't think there is anything wrong and I personally think it's a good thing.

My view on what a 5 star match should be is that it should be flawless in the eye of the viewer. Take for example Cena vs Punk MiTB. I adore that match but a few of the botches did suck me out of the moment. It's not perfect in my eyes and gets the ****3/4 rating.

I don't think anyone is in the position to call someone wrong on giving that match the full monty though. The match may not of perfect from a physical standpoint (an undeniable fact), but if the botches didn't negatively affect your viewing in anyway, then go ahead and give it the full five (if you think it warrants it, of course).
Do you have any match at *****? I don't think any match is flawless.
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"in the eye of the viewer", he said.
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Do you guys recommend the Best of Raw & Smackdown 2011? It looks pretty solid.
Need some opinions so I can get it tomorrow or Friday
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Talking about 5 star matches, I agree with Cal in that you need to get that "feeling". It can't really be explained in any more detail than that. If it makes me revert back to being a child and just mark the fuck out then its done is job.

Punk/Cena MitB was used as an example which I agree is 5 stars. That being said, from a technical standpoint it is far from perfect, however it is still very good in that aspect and everything else about that match is amazing.

I firmly beleive that atmosphere adds a hell of a lot to a match. A hot crowd and a great build improve a match tenfold in my eyes.

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