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Old 03-02-2012, 09:45 AM   #151 (permalink)
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Thanks.

Not to knock Flair/Savage, but always thought Hogan/Taker would have been perfect for Mania. Of course, Hogan/Flair was most peoples first pick, but oh well.
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Old 03-02-2012, 09:47 AM   #152 (permalink)
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I was about to say Crossface would definitely have been a dark horse in the WCW poll given he's barely posted in months, no doubt Sterling put Dustin/Vader 1994 top 5.....


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Also yeah, I'm not really a fan of Bret at all thesedays, some of his best matches still hold up well (though I'm definitely not as big a fan of the Owen matches or Davey Boy matches as some), Austin stuff is all marvellous though and I dug ONO v Taker the last time I saw it. That being said I'd still rank someone like Dustin Rhodes or Arn Anderson ahead of him on a GOAT poll, they may not have been given the time and opportunity to wrestle some of the matches Bret has, but I'll be damned if they've ever given notably bad performances or ever made me bored/apathetic to watching them.
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Arn was better, yes, but Dustin? No way, man. Dustin was good, really good sometimes, but cannot be compared to Bret Hart. Dustin's WCW years are really underrated sometimes, but putting them ahead of Bret's work is science-fiction, IMO.

Arn Anderson, on the other hand, yes - better than Bret Hart.
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What is the general consensus for the SS 1996 match between Bret and Austin? I'm not that high on the match. It's good, but nowhere near their war at WrestleMania.

Sticking with Bret, I adore his matches with Davey Boy--both of them. I'm higher on the SummerSlam 1992 match than most and I'd take it easily above the Hart brothers' match at 'Mania X.
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How can anyone not like Arn Anderson, his matches were all wrestling clinics. I marked out like crazy when he slammed Taker at WM 18. So cool.
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Better seller, better babyface, incredibly charismatic, better offence etc etc I really think Dustin belongs in the discussion for top 20 US workers of all time, and whilst I have him far below Flair, Steamboat,Hansen, Lawler, Funk and Eddie etc I think he's just as worthy as someone like Mysterio, Bret, Austin, Murdoch, Slaughter etc in the tier pushing to get from the top 15 into the top 10.

He was incredibly smooth in the ring and looked like a pro wrestler, was a marvellous FIP who knew how to inject crowds with his charisma and get himself over like Steamboat, Morton, Sting and others did in the same time, he's got some stellar performances and matches and is still a very good worker today even if he gets piss poor time to show it.

Bret's best match is better than Dustin's but bar Bret's 1994 I'd say Dustin from 1990-1994 for the most part could stack up against a lot of guys as far as peak runs go, he was one of the company's aces during their prime and when competition there comes from Arn, Rude, Steamboat, Vader, Flair, Eaton, Zbyszko, Morton, Windham, Austin etc you know the guy was something special. I much prefer him as a babyface worker than Bret and think with the right push he could have been a real force in the territories as a plucky babyface champion, he's just got so much going for him compared to Bret these days that I can't rank Bret ahead of him.

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I think Bret/Austin SS 1996 was a great match, but not a MOTYC or GOAT. It was simply a great match with great storytelling and strategies, but people overrate it more than sometimes. My rating: ***1/2
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What is the general consensus for the SS 1996 match between Bret and Austin? I'm not that high on the match. It's good, but nowhere near their war at WrestleMania.

Sticking with Bret, I adore his matches with Davey Boy--both of them. I'm higher on the SummerSlam 1992 match than most and I'd take it easily above the Hart brothers' match at 'Mania X.
I prefer the SS match between Bret and Austin to WM, but only ever so slightly. Too COMPLETELY different matches, and it says a lot about them as performers that they can have 2 ***** (imo of course) matches during the same feud and tell 2 stories that are perhaps more different than any 2 matches between any 2 wrestlers in a series of matches.

As for Bret/Davey, I don't think too much to their matches. WM X with Owen is worlds above any Bret/Davey match for me. Don't like their cage match though. Urgh.
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Yeah I've not seen SS 1996 in a while but I was a fan of it last time around, though its a step step down from Wrestlemania 13. I seem to remember Cal or Yeah1993 being a big fan of (or at the very least discussing) an Austin/Bret match from Africa I believe, unless I've got the participants wrong but I'm 99% sure its those two.

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Some people didn't like Bret no selling the Stunner at SS. I never had a problem with it, really. But it's weird that Bret never lost even once to Austin clean. Perhaps had he been around longer, no doubt a huge WWF title match would have happened and he would put Austin over.
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