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Old 01-23-2013, 06:40 PM   #15241 (permalink)
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PAC would do well to overtake Bourne, merely because of how assured Bourne looked as the maniacal bumping heir to Mysterio with a really underrated ability to build and time his comebacks wonderfully. Annoyed me when people used to call him a spotmonkey merely because of his agile offence, without giving thought to his selling, bumping and general structure of his matches.

I've heard PAC is supposedly a more all rounded wrestler, so that will do him good when he's in WWE and having to work the brunt of his matches from the bottom and building to his agile offence. He certainly looks a lot more built and bigger than the likes of Bourne, Cara & Generico, will have to see just how good a bumper and timer he is. Some of his offence being scaled back will probably also be to his advantage long term and if he's as good as people say as an all round worker it shouldn't hinder him too much.
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Old 01-23-2013, 08:57 PM   #15242 (permalink)
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Who the hell is PAC?
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Old 01-23-2013, 09:40 PM   #15243 (permalink)
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WWF Royal Rumble – 01.23.00
Kurt Angle vs. Tazz- **
The Hardy Boyz vs. The Dudley Boyz- ***1/2
Chris Jericho vs. Hardcore Holly vs. Chyna- ***
The Acolytes vs. New Age Outlaws- *1/2
Triple H vs. Cactus Jack- *****
2000 Royal Rumble Match- ***1/4



Finally got around to this show in my WWF 2000 project and it was well worth the wait. The opener between Tazz and Kurt Angle was pretty good for the three or so minutes it got and Tazz, as expected, was over as hell in his WWF debut. The tag team tables match was extremely fun and gives us a taste of what to expect in the coming months when it comes to crazy spot fests involving these teams. The triple threat was much better than I expected it to be, which was a shocker considering it involved both Hardcore Holly and Chyna. The tag team titles match was what it was and at only three minutes they didn't get much time to accomplish anything worth noting. The HHH/Foley street fight was and lived up to the hype. Both men took a ton of punishment and I'm really looking forward to their Hell in a Cell match at the No Way Out Pay Per View the next month, which is a match that I've never seen before. The 2000 Royal Rumble Match was fine, although off of the top of my head I prefer 2001 Royal Rumble to it. It had some fun moments like Too Cool dancing in the ring and Kaientai and the Mean Street Posse trying their darndest to interfere in the match. Outside of that, the match dragged at times until big names like The Rock entered, although Rikishi had a nice run in the early parts of the match.

Overall, this was a pretty good show. Every match was at least decent outside of the tag team titles match, but it's hard to fault the competitors involved seeing as they barely had three minutes to put on a match.
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Yeah, when the fuck is Bourne even due back?
Heard it is going to be in March or April. Curt Hawkins got slated with the same return date, but came back early. So fingers crossed for Bourne too. Maybe even at the Rumble? I'll mark.

On the subject of him (Bourne) - he's great. Spot monkey is an awful term, even for a guy who it kind of fits under with the likes of talented high flyers such as a Amazing Red. Bourne doesn't deserve that label. If you watch his matches it's easy to see. His selling is prime. WOOLCOCK pimped his timing, which was spot on. He's generally pretty great at it. Easy to get behind and get the crowd invested in a comeback. Being one of the few high flyers on the WWE roster has certainly given him an x factor and something different to work with the majority of the rest employed.

@ Ownage - PAC is the man. He's in NXT right now under the name Adrian Neville. British independent worker who came over to the States at around late 2006 and blew up among the Indie world. A breathtaking high flyer with some legit amazing moves. He's so smooth. He's more than that, imo, as he's got other qualities about his game. More often than not you can see him work a nice slew of matches. Some are high octane, fast paced fun. Others are focused on grounding him and his struggle to unleash his offense on the comeback stretch, or everything in-between. He's got the goods to be something within WWE.
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WWE.com just did a top 20 WCW matches ever and these were the results :

20. Sting vs. Diamond Dallas Page (Nitro, April 26, 1999)
19. Dean Malenko vs. Eddie Guerrero (Uncensored 1997)
18. Big Van Vader vs. Cactus Jack (Halloween Havoc 1993)
17. 3 Count vs. Jung Dragons (New Blood Rising 2000)
16. Diamond Dallas Page vs. “Macho Man” Randy Savage (Spring Stampede 1997)
15. Cactus Jack & Maxx Payne vs. Nasty Boys (Spring Stampede 1994)
14. Rey Mysterio vs. Dean Malenko (Great American Bash 1996)
13. Ric Flair vs. Hulk Hogan (Bash at the Beach 1994)
12. Steiner Brothers vs. Sting & Lex Luger (SuperBrawl 1991)
11. Ricky Steamboat vs. Rick Rude (Beach Blast 1992)
10. Brian Pillman vs. Jushin “Thunder” Liger (SuperBrawl II)
9. “Stunning” Steve Austin vs. Ricky Steamboat (Bash at the Beach 1994)
8. Sting’s Squadron vs. Dangerous Alliance (WrestleWar 1992)
7. Ric Flair vs. Big Van Vader (Starrcade 1993)
6. Rey Mysterio vs. Ultimo Dragon (World War 3 1996)
5. Ric Flair vs. Sting (Clash of Champions XXVII).
4. Rey Mysterio vs. Eddie Guerrero (Halloween Havoc 1997)
3. Goldberg vs. Diamond Dallas Page (Halloween Havoc 1998)
2. Ric Flair vs. Sting (Great American Bash 1990)
1. Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat (Clash of the Champions VI in 1989)

Thoughts on this ;

- Why not include the other two Flair-Steamboat matches ? This makes absolutely no sense as both of those matches should have been 2 and 3 respectively. Why take two of the three greatest matches in WCW history and NOT INCLUDE THEM.

- WHY is Flair-Sting on this list ? WHY is Flair-Hogan from BATB on this and not their AWESOME cage match ?

- Rick Rude-Steamboat and WAR GAMES 92 are all far too low, WTF WWE.

- Love seeing Goldberg-DDP , Savage-DDP, and Sting-DDP getting some love. DDP is getting a ton of love from the company since signing a legends deal of some sort. Goldberg-DDP could be argued as being ASTRONOMICALLY and SURPRISINGLY high.

- Not enough love for SCOTT STEINER.

- This list is MEH. You can't exclude two of the three greatest matches in company history and expect something great....... WAIT....... WHY WEREN'T ANY FLAIR-FUNK MATCHES ON THIS ? THE FUCK.... FUCK THIS LIST. FUCK YOU WWE.
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#5 is wtf level.

oh and where is Finlay vs Regal from Uncensored 1996? Crap.

at least #1 is spot on.
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#2 is NO. NO. NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Level.......


Seriously, Flair-Sting @ GAB 90 isn't good in the slightest, and a pretty damn bad match by Flair standards for sure.
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It's the result. Sting FINALLY trumped Flair to become World Heavyweight Champion. I understand the ranking from that standpoint.

Ironic that what seems to be my favorite tag team match ever is on the same event and wasn't even listed. Oh, that WWE and their lists. Did they vote or did fans? Either way, everyone should know it's going to be off.
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WWE.COM makes the GOAT thread look like a bunch of wrestling philosophers.
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I wouldn't go that far. It's not like WWE is ranking those matches on ratings or how many t-shirts they sold.
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