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post #1491 of 20566 (permalink) Old 04-23-2012, 09:32 AM
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Well you should give the good ones a go lol. Bret/HBK certainly isn't worth your time .

Rude/Steamboat from 92 is only a 30 minute Iron Man match. Not too long, and totally fucking awesome.
Thanks and i will try to watch Rude/Steamboat..both are great wrestlers,so why not



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Considering a few pages back everyone was talking about WM21 I decided to give it a watch.
Here are my ratings:
Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio ***3/4
Kane vs Edge vs Christian w/ Tyson Tomko vs Shelton Benjamin vs Chris Jericho vs Chris Benoit for the Money in the Bank ****
Randy Orton vs Undertaker ***3/4
Shawn Michaels vs Kurt Angle ****1/4
Big Show vs Akebono Sumo Match **1/4
John Cena vs JBL for the WWE Championship ***1/2
Batista vs Triple H w/ Ric Flair for the World Heavyweight Championship ***3/4

Bear in mind I'm quite harsh when it comes to rating matches. Overall the PPV was okay the undercard was good but the two world titles matches really wern't up to standard considering it was meant to be the big break for both Cena and Batista. I did enjoy the segments with JBL and Triple H as wlel as the Hogan and Austin/Piper Bits.
Those aren't even CLOSE to being harsh, TBH. Average rating for Cena/JBL is like, less than one star and Batsta/Trip gets around three. Show/Akebono gets duds.

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Considering a few pages back everyone was talking about WM21 I decided to give it a watch.
Here are my ratings:
Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio ***3/4
Kane vs Edge vs Christian w/ Tyson Tomko vs Shelton Benjamin vs Chris Jericho vs Chris Benoit for the Money in the Bank ****
Randy Orton vs Undertaker ***3/4
Shawn Michaels vs Kurt Angle ****1/4
Big Show vs Akebono Sumo Match **1/4
John Cena vs JBL for the WWE Championship ***1/2
Batista vs Triple H w/ Ric Flair for the World Heavyweight Championship ***3/4

Bear in mind I'm quite harsh when it comes to rating matches. Overall the PPV was okay the undercard was good but the two world titles matches really wern't up to standard considering it was meant to be the big break for both Cena and Batista. I did enjoy the segments with JBL and Triple H as wlel as the Hogan and Austin/Piper Bits.
Yes, I can see that.

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I don't understand how Cena/JBL is only 1/4* worse off then Taker/Orton. It's one of the shittest main events (co main event whatever) in Wrestlemania history.
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My rating system needs overhauling. At the moment I sorta start at 3 stars and kinda go up from there.
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I have never watched any Ironman match ..i tried (6 years ago) to watch HBK/Bret but i found my self sleeping after 10 minutes lol.
I try to avoid Ironman matches these days... Seems like the thing to do in the 'biz for it to come down to the final minute-or-so, if not go OT/Sudden Death.
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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Decided to try and figure out my favorite match of each gimmick.

Triple Threat: Benoit/HBK/HHH - WM XX
Fatal Four Way: Cena/Edge/Orton/HBK - Backlash '07
Steel cage: Eddie/JBL - Smackdown '04
HIAC: HBK/Taker - Bad Blood '97
Ladder: E&C vs Hardyz - No Mercy '99
TLC: TLC I - Summerslam '00
MITB: MITB IV - WM XXIV
Table: Hardyz/Dudleys - Rumble '00
Street Fight: Triple H/Cactus Jack - Rumble '00
I Quit: JBL/Cena - JD '05
Last Man Standing: John Cena vs Umaga - Royal Rumble '07
Iron Man: Angle/Lesnar - SD '03
Falls Count Anywhere: Umaga/Hardy - ONS '08 (Couldn't think of many)
Stretcher Match: HBK/Batista - ONS '08
Special ref: HHH/Taker w/HBK - WM XXVIII



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Decided to try and figure out my favorite match of each gimmick.

Triple Threat: Benoit/HBK/HHH - WM XX
Fatal Four Way: Cena/Edge/Orton/HBK - Backlash '07
Steel cage: Eddie/JBL - Smackdown '04
HIAC: HBK/Taker - Bad Blood '97
Ladder: E&C vs Hardyz - No Mercy '99
TLC: TLC I - Summerslam '00
MITB: MITB IV - WM XXIV
Table: Hardyz/Dudleys - Rumble '00
Street Fight: Triple H/Cactus Jack - Rumble '00
I Quit: JBL/Cena - JD '05
Last Man Standing: John Cena vs Umaga - Royal Rumble '07
Iron Man: Angle/Lesnar - SD '03
Falls Count Anywhere: Umaga/Hardy - ONS '08 (Couldn't think of many)
Stretcher Match: HBK/Batista - ONS '08
Special ref: HHH/Taker w/HBK - WM XXVIII
Good list, only one's I would probably disagree with are Brock/Undertaker as the HIAC and TLC II from Mania 17.

I rewatched HHH v Cactus Jack the other day and that match just gets better every time I watch it, Foley really made HHH that night

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Re: Official DVD/Match/Show Discussion Thread

Thought I would do a similar thing and decide what was my favourite match from the following gimmicks:

Triple Threat: Chris Benoit vs. Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H - Wrestlemania XX
Fatal Four Way: Eddie Guerrero vs. Chris Benoit vs. Chris Jericho vs. Kurt Angle - No Way Out '01
Steel cage: Bret Hart vs. Owen Hart - Summerslam '94
Hell in a Cell: Shawn Michaels vs. The Undertaker - Bad Blood '97
Ladder: Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon - Wrestlemania X
TLC: TLC I - Summerslam '00
Money in the Bank: MITB IV - Wrestlemania XXIV
Table: The Hardy Boyz vs. The Dudley Boys - Royal Rumble '00
Street Fight: Triple H vs. Cactus Jack - Royal Rumble '00
I Quit: The Rock vs. Mankind - Royal Rumble '99
Last Man Standing: Triple H vs. Shawn Michaels - Royal Rumble '04
Iron Man: The Rock vs. Triple H - Judgement Day '00
Falls Count Anywhere: The Rock vs. Mankind - Superbowl '99
Stretcher Match: Brock Lesnar vs. Big Show - Judgement Day '03
Special ref: Triple H vs. The Undertaker, Shawn Michaels as referee - Wrestlemania XXVIII
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I got bored last night and decided to watch the RVD/Eddie series from 2002. it's easily one of my favorite mid-card feuds in recent memory, even if it's not that recent.

Eddie Guerrero vs. Rob Van Dam - Backlash 2002
This was really great stuff, and a superb start to what's one of my favorite feuds of 2002. Even before the bell rings, I get a feeling that Eddie feels like he has something to prove. He'd battled drug addiction and lost his job. Now here he is, back in the big-time, he has to prove he's deserving of a second shot in the major leagues. Things starts with RVD being a fiery son-of-a-bitch and not giving Eddie much room to breathe. His offence is like gun-fire, just wham, wham, wham and there's a sweet moonsault to the floor too. That spot always impresses the shit out of me. Eddie finally gets the ball rolling by getting the knees up on the Rolling Thunder. Now it's time for shit to go down. Eddie starts some sadistic back-work, even I feel sorry for RVD's spine. There's back drops, submissions, backbreakers, powerbombs, Gory Stretches, you name it, he's fucking up RVD's back with it.

The finish was textbook Eddie. Neither guy could hit their respective Frog Splash but Eddie was determined to hit his, after all, it was his finisher first. After some title-belt antics and ref bumping, Eddie feels froggy and puts RVD away. That actually surprised me, I was expecting some sort of everyday RVD-comeback razamataz but this caught me off guard, I was pleasantly surprised. I like being surprised since I couldn't remember who won this. Like I said, superb stuff.

***3/4

Eddie Guerrero vs. Rob Van Dam Ė Insurrextion 2002

So yeah, this match. Definitely wasnít as good as Backlash anyway, but it was pretty good for what it was. RVD starts out being all feisty and shit, wanting revenge for his title-loss. All his stuff looks really snappy and some of itís executed better than in the previous match. Eddie gets a nice two-pronged offence going on between the head and the leg. But after a while, RVD just ignores it and continues as per usual with his flippy stuff. I get that heís stretchy and his legs are in good nick and all but it just felt out of place seeing all that legwork lead to nothing. Thereís a DQ finish because there isnít a hope in hell of a title-change on a UK PPV. RVD sends the crowd home happy with a Frog Splash. Like I said, this isnít as good as the Backlash match, but its still another nice outing from these two.

***1/4

Eddie Guerrero vs. Rob Van Dam Ė Judgment Day 2002

Ah, this was much improved from the UK match. The entire match is pretty much all RVD but Eddieís mannerisms more than make up for his lack of offence. This can be seen right from the opening where RVD seems to be one-upping Eddie on everything and itís frustrating the shit out of Guerrero. RVD does a real good job of concentrating on Eddieís back, his leg strength is seriously impressive in some instances, especially on one submission that I canít remember the name of right now. I think itís a surfboard but Iím not 100% sure. Eddie does a real nice job of selling the back like death but his facial expressions are even better. Fuck, I miss him. When Eddie eventually hits a powerbomb, it feels like heís giving RVD a receipt for everything heís received so far, thereís some nice spicy HATE to it. Eddie slapping his chest and firing up might very well be the best part of the whole match. Some nice savvy from Eddie to pick up the win in this one. Fabulous stuff once again, Iíd probably hold it on par or slightly below the Backlash match.

***1/2-***3/4

Eddie Guerrero vs. Rob Van Dam Ė RAW 05/27/02

We all know this one. I donít think Iíd ever really PROPERLY watched this match before but now I understand all the praise it gets. In a time where so many ladder matches just blend together and seem to be the same stuff every time, this one comfortably stands out. Itís like the hotter older sister of the other matches. There are way too many things to mention in this one, but for me the spots that stood out best were THAT powerbomb and the moonsault off the apron spot. The entire match is an incredible display of athleticism but those two just stick out in my mind. Itís not just spot-to-spot-to-spot either, which was more than pleasing. The fan-interference made me chuckle but it didnít sour things at all. I thought RVD botching the finish mightíve left a dirty stain in my mind but they recovered well and I could still buy into the outcome. Probably my 3rd or 4th favorite ladder match ever, maybe higher, Iíd need to look into that.

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