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TJChurch · 04-22-2012, 06:06 PM

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Survivor Series 2003

Team Angle vs Team Lesnar - ***1/4

Poor booking here or I might be massively missing something. Cena and Benoit are left standing by beating Big Show. However Lesnar taps (again) and Angle is pinned 3/4 the way through. At times it felt all over the place and seemed overbooked with random brawls in the ring. Was enjoyable, especially for an opener, did the trick, Cena continues to build in 2003.

I find myself disappointed by a great many Survivor Series PPVs upon re-watch. Admittedly, I own a few on DVD (the one w/the Shane-Kane match, Bischoff-Austin, etc.), but that is largely because on DVD, you can watch the matches you want & skip the rest.

Offhand, believe I've said it here before, but I think my fave SS match might be the one with DX teaming with Punk. (HHH giving Punk the mic, HBK not knowing who he beat, posing with Melian, are all good. I could do w/o the Spirit Sqaud & the old guys.)

MachoMadness1988 · 04-22-2012, 06:57 PM

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So I guess you could say it's the Final Countdown. Daaa naaaa naaaa naaaa Daaa naaaaa naaaa naaa naaa!

doinktheclowns · 04-22-2012, 08:09 PM

Can you recommend any DVD's from 1990 - 1995 WWE/WCW preferably generalized although can be about individual stars.
PM me as I think responses will probably be lost in this massive thread.

Thanks

MachoMadness1988 · 04-22-2012, 08:17 PM

Finally got my hands on a copy of In Your House 13. Watching HHH V Rocky for the IC belt. Talk about a push Rock made his debut and less than 3 months later was IC champ. Both are very green in the ring but you can tell that IT factor is there with both of them. JR and King keep fighting like an old married couple. Good times.

Cookie Monster · 04-22-2012, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by MachoMadness1988

Finally got my hands on a copy of In Your House 13. Watching HHH V Rocky for the IC belt. Talk about a push Rock made his debut and less than 3 months later was IC champ. Both are very green in the ring but you can tell that IT factor is there with both of them. JR and King keep fighting like an old married couple. Good times.

A lot of stiff hits in that match. Apparently around the time where Triple H and The Rock had legit beef in real life I believe?

MachoMadness1988 · 04-22-2012, 08:32 PM

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A lot of stiff hits in that match. Apparently around the time where Triple H and The Rock had legit beef in real life I believe?

Yeah very stiff. Rock totally botched a DDT. I think this was the the first time we saw Chyna in the WWF.

**Undertaker** · 04-22-2012, 11:18 PM

Since everyone is doing it, here is my WM 21 ratings.

Wrestlemania 21

1. Eddie Guerrero vs Rey Mysterio - ***1/2
2. Money in the bank ladder match - ****
3. Undertaker vs Randy Orton - ***3/4
4. Trish vs Hemme - DUD
5. Kurt Angle vs Shawn Michaels - ****1/2
6. Sumo match - DUD
7. JBL vs John Cena - DUD
8. Batista vs Triple H - ***1/4

Would anyone else on here like to see Lesnar/Batista happen at one point?

TJChurch · 04-22-2012, 11:57 PM

FACT: Tomorrow will be a 3-hour show with less quality than most of their 2-hour programs.

PREDICTION: They will concentrate on the contract signing... Like it matters. We all know they have a ton of PPV matches without a public signing, & most of the public signings go (unscripted) badly. In fact, it would be a nice surprise to have one go well on TV, but that would leave them far too much time left in the show to fill with wastes like Tensai & Clay's dancing.

BGLWrestlingGod · 04-23-2012, 12:03 AM

The Twisted, Disturbed Life of Kane - Disc 2

Chain Match for the IC Title: Triple H vs. Kane - ***

Kane vs. Kurt Angle - ***

World Heavyweight Title: Triple H vs. Kane - ***1/4

Rob Van Dam & Kane vs. Chris Jericho & Christian - **1/2

Steel Cage Match: Rob Van Dam vs. Kane - **3/4

Last Man Standing Match: Shane McMahon vs. Kane - ***1/4

Ambulance Match: Shane McMahon vs. Kane - ***3/4

Matt Hardy vs. Kane - **3/4

**Clique** · 04-23-2012, 12:29 AM

The Rock vs. Triple H (60 Minute Iron Man Match) w/Shawn Michaels as the Special Guest Referee - Judgment Day 2000

Both men stepped it up big time for this match and their feud in general in 2000. What I like most about this match is that it is never boring during the 60 minutes wrestled. They obviously paced themselves well but what I found brilliant is that this match had everything! They had the wrestling holds on the mat, brawling, blood, table spots and loads of falls compared to the 1st Ironman.

The Rock almost expertly attacked Hunter’s legs which is also great psychology to pull the man’s wheels from under him especially when he knows he must wrestle THE HOUR. Triple H countered back by working over The Rock’s shoulder.

They had brawling all on the stage, in the crowd and around the ring. They even had Shawn Michaels as the special ref with those tight-ass, stuffed shorts (why Shawn?). One of my favorite moments in the match is when Triple H is trying to force the Rock’s shoulders to the mat with the Roman knuckle lock but The Rock (while struggling) continues to fight up. I just that that was a strong image because sold the story of the will to win and to fight for as long as humanly possible no matter how tired you may be you have to keep fighting. It is small moments like that put the match over more for me.

The Ironman gimmick which I think happens in most of these match is the heel gets the big advantage and the face must chase him and the clock in the last leg of the match. The formula makes the most sense because normal matches usually work that way also without the gimmick of course. I didn’t have a problem with there being so many falls either because each fall made sense. Two of the falls were a count out and a DQ anyways.

The Faction/Regime/DX’s interference at the end was expected and so was Undertaker’s return (Well sort of. Some people at the time thought it could be Kane). But we got the Deadman, excuse me, we got the American Badass! I watched this match with my family when it happened and we were screaming like crazy when Taker returned and kicked everybody’s ass!

Trips gets the title back after a controversial decision from the official (of course). Trips and Rocky continue the hot potato game with the WWE Title for another month. This is one of the most thrilling one hour matches ever.

btw, Shawn has a solid history of refereeing really good-great main event matches. I.e. Hart/Taker SS97, Rock/HHH SD & JD, Elimination Chamber III and the End of an Era.