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Old 01-19-2013, 01:19 AM   #14671 (permalink)
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Superstars from this week just finished. Here's what I'm in store for:

Kofi Kingston vs Michael McGillicutty
Zack Ryder vs JTG

oh boy
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Old 01-19-2013, 01:23 AM   #14672 (permalink)
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OH BOY. How did I fuck that one up ?

Here's a interesting question ; how much further can the likes of Cena, Punk, and Bryan move up in the ranks workrate wise in their respective careers ? Basically, how much does X Wrestler need to do in order for you to put them in the same class as Benoit/Eddie/Rey ? Would a few more CLASSICS do the job ? Would it be just non-stop consistency ? Both ?
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Both would be key. Honestly Punk and Danielson are already on route to that level. If not there. Cena, whom I do love, needs to tune his game up on the weekly shows again. Lately he's been lazy as hell when it comes to keeping the calling of spots under wraps. Notice him calling a lot weekly. It's only a minor gripe and when the PPVs come, he always delivers. So at least he comes through when we need it most.
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Danielson I could see, but the other two I'm really not high enough on. I really don't ever see them touching that top-of-the-line (for me, obv. "IMO" and all that). I wouldn't have either in my top 100 right now and IDK where they'd place if I were doing a top 200. I wouldn't rank Danielson there either, but he's a guy that I would FOR SURE rank in a top 100 and he's just, IDK, 'different'. Almost nobody in the world ATM could have done what he did that TLC match, and was like a month ago. He seriously may not have hit his peak yet. Have Punk and Cena hit their peak yet? Who knows. But I'm a lot less higher on those two than I am on Danielson and I'm lot less higher on those two than a lot of other people are. Both guys have too much stuff I find "blehh" or just flat out don't like. They can have great matches after great matches and depending on career length could have more great matches than someone like Eddie Guerrero actually did, but there isn't anything in a bell-to-bell match I think Cena or Punk really do better than Eddie did. I hope that makes SOME sense. I've had two hours sleep in the past 36 hours.
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And who knows if one of those guys might surprise us and become that "fine wine" that gets better with age? Look at what the likes of Undertaker, Big Show, Rey Mysterio, and I've heard some arguments for Shawn Michaels that they all became better or at least smarter workers over time.
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Project how you'd rank these SEVEN guys in TEN years :

John Cena
CM Punk
Randy Orton
Sheamus
Daniel Bryan
Dolph Ziggler
Alberto Del Rio

Don't worry ; I'll remember it and make sure to bring it up 10 years from now when we're all lonely, depressed, and have little to no life outside of these forums
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Danielson I could see, but the other two I'm really not high enough on. I really don't ever see them touching that top-of-the-line (for me, obv. "IMO" and all that). I wouldn't have either in my top 100 right now and IDK where they'd place if I were doing a top 200. I wouldn't rank Danielson there either, but he's a guy that I would FOR SURE rank in a top 100 and he's just, IDK, 'different'. Almost nobody in the world ATM could have done what he did that TLC match, and was like a month ago. He seriously may not have hit his peak yet. Have Punk and Cena hit their peak yet? Who knows. But I'm a lot less higher on those two than I am on Danielson and I'm lot less higher on those two than a lot of other people are. Both guys have too much stuff I find "blehh" or just flat out don't like. They can have great matches after great matches and depending on career length could have more great matches than someone like Eddie Guerrero actually did, but there isn't anything in a bell-to-bell match I think Cena or Punk really do better than Eddie did. I hope that makes SOME sense. I've had two hours sleep in the past 36 hours.
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And who knows if one of those guys might surprise us and become that "fine wine" that gets better with age? Look at what the likes of Undertaker, Big Show, Rey Mysterio, and I've heard some arguments for Shawn Michaels that they all became better or at least smarter workers over time.
Undertaker & Big Show for the top nominations there. I mean WOW at how many more matches I adore from each of them over the last few years than I did during the "high point" of wrestling. I think Punker & Danielson had that quality attached to them. Cena's banged up, but that shouldn't mean he couldn't work through it and create something better.
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Let's not forget MIZARK "RATINGS" MOTHERFUCKIN' HENRY.

I mean, my god. Was it just me or did he become one of the best character workers in the business seemingly overnight ? WHAT THE HELL DID HE DO TO IMPROVE SO MUCH AND WHY AREN'T MORE PEOPLE DOING IT. Blows my fucking mind actually.
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Even as a guy liked Henry prior to 2011, I'm still amazed by it. Glad it happened though. It's why i'm hoping he'll return come Rumble and give us a little bit more before he thinks about hanging it up.
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Just watched one of the worst matches I've ever seen in my life.

David Sammartino vs Brutus Beefcake at the very first Wrestlemania. I mean UGH, this was just a cheap way to get Bruno on the card to please the traditionalists and to please the MSG crowd. We really couldn't just have Bruno beat up ANYBODY instead of this complete BULLSHIT ? .... It was honestly the most pointless match psychology wise I've ever seen, very sloppily put together, and boring as shit. A few matches into my WRESTLEMANIA PROJECT and I've already got a contender for worst match

Valentine-JYD sucked balls too. YA KNOW, for being the very first show in a series of the biggest shows EVER, it kind of BLOWS HARD
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