[Walter Sobchak]

I think I've seen Ryback/Hell No vs. Shield 20 times now, it's my 2012 match of the year ahead of Punk/Bryan OTL and Brock/Cena.

I don't really do star ratings but it would get the full 5, matches like that are I why I love pro wrestling. Just brilliant.

[SmokeAndMirrors]

Originally Posted by Walter Sobchak

I think I've seen Ryback/Hell No vs. Shield 20 times now, it's my 2012 match of the year ahead of Punk/Bryan OTL and Brock/Cena.

I don't really do star ratings but it would get the full 5, matches like that are I why I love pro wrestling. Just brilliant.

My personal MOTY for 2012 was Undertaker/HHH. I rewatched it a couple weeks back expected to not be as engaged with it as the drama of whether or not the streak would end is not there. But I enjoyed it so much, great psychology and storytelling. All three men do a fantastic job. Work of art.

[The Beast Incarnate]

It requires BALLS to give Benoit/Angle *** 1/4.

[Big Z]

I'VE GOT BALLS THE SIZE OF GRAPEFRUITS.

Seeing my doctor on Monday .

[The Beast Incarnate]

I think it's the lowest I've ever seen that match rated by anyone. BY FAR

[Big Z]

Don't think its the lowest I've seen it lol.

People gonna think I'm crazy given some other ratings I've given in the 04 and 05 RR events .

[Choke2Death]

It definitely takes balls to have unique opinions, lol.

As the poster child for "unique opinion", I know all about that in this forum!

[SmokeAndMirrors]

Originally Posted by Choke2Death

It definitely takes balls to have unique opinions, lol.

As the poster child for "unique opinion", I know all about that in this forum!

That's obvious from your sig

[ATF]

Originally Posted by That's irrelevant

Yeah, that Summerslam PPV was a big disappointment. I was only interested in the Cena/Edge match along with the Flair/Foley match due to the awesome build-up behind it. The rest of the card felt underwhelming.

Speaking of the Flair/Foley feud, I have to re-watch their promos with each other again. Their promos leading to the Summerslam PPV were wonderful. I recall them having a great, intense promo with one another on WWECW but I can't remember when.

"We shall bleed to death in Boston". And they were legit close to. They really had a lot of intensity in all of their promos, and in the feud in general. Really great stuff.

But Edge/Cena is easily feud of the year for 2006 IMO. I've watched A LOT of their feud and matches. Edge, alongside Punk, is easily Cena's greatest rival ever. This is how I would rank every match I can remember between both:

New Year's Revolution - N/A (points for shock value and history purpose)
Royal Rumble - **1/2
Mick Foley as guest ref - **3/4
Triple Threat w/HHH - ****
SNME - ***
SummerSlam - ***1/2
TLC - ****1/2
Triple Threat w/Big Show - ***
Last Man Standing - ****1/4

Pretty sure there were more. Anyways, how would you rank the Edge/Cena matches?

[The Beast Incarnate]

TBH, I don't think I've seen anybody put that under **** .

Survivor Series 2012

Brodus Clay/International Airstrike/ReyCARA vs Tensai/Primo&Epico/Primetime Players : ** ¾(.5)

Kaitlyn vs Eve : * ½(-0.5)

R-Truth vs Antonio Cesaro : ** ¼ (0)

LONG SHITTY AJ-VICKIE SEGMENT (-0.5)

The Big Show vs Sheamus : *** (1)

Team Ziggler (Dolph ZIggler/David Otunga/Wade Barrett/Damien Sandow/Alberto Del Rio) vs Team Foley (Kane/Daniel Bryan/Kofi Kingston/The Miz/Randy Orton) : *** (1)

CM Punk vs John Cena vs Ryback : *** (1)

Thoughts

So YEAH....... This show is like the definition of mediocre. The main event matches are all good, but everything feels so rushed and pointless that I have no reason to care anymore about these matches than I should. There's absolutely nothing GREAT here, and definitely nothing that even comes close to CLASSIC , and I think that hurts this show. There's nothing here to really boost this show epically, but there were a few things, namely the Divas match and the long/pointless/shitty/all of the above AJ/Vickie segment that took up a chunk of time and hurt the show for me in the long run.

You have a match like Cesaro-Truth, which is essentially the same match Cesaro's having since he debuted, just more to showcase on a big PPV stage. Not a bad match TBH, just a average little Cesaro showcase that doesn't really contribute anything to the card and doesn't really take anything away from it either.

The two Survivor Series tags were both fun at times, but I felt they fell WAY below the standards of what an elimination tag should be like at Survivor Series. The opener was a nice little surprise due to KIDD , but I felt the talent on the heels team was lackluster and that the match could have been a far better showcase of the up and comers on each end doing their thing. Kidd and Gabriel come out of this looking strong though, so that's a win right there. Good stuff but not up to the Elimination Tag standards that had been set years ago. Team ZIGGLER vs Team FOLEY was a terribly pointless match with some of the worst opening sequence's and paces I've ever seen in my life. Thankfully it picked up and what we got was a very serious match towards the end with Orton going crazy against two heels who wanna take him out. Some of the eliminations felt rushed, but the last 10 minutes of this is AWESOME with Orton playing a great "fuck the world" babyface only to fall apart at the hands of Ziggler.

The two World Championship matches were good. I already talked about Show/Sheamus and the reasons why it wasn't up to par with the original (more restholds and less HITTING, finish wasn't as good) , but the match was still great and I consider it to be the Show/Henry from Survivor Series to the Show/Henry from Vengeance of the series. It's the MOTN and I adore it, it just isn't there compared to the original. Punk/Cena/Ryback on the other hand is a tale of two matches. The beginning of this absolutely SUCKS, and it lasts for a while due to RYBACK'S incompetence. However, this picks up once Ryback is out of the match and it turns into a typical Punk/Cena AWESOME match, complete with an awesome pace, some great false finishes, and the like. Whenever Ryback comes back into the match all you can say is "Oh shit, Ryback's here again...FUCK" as the pace starts to slow down again. It's just such an up and down pace that I can't really describe, but I know one thing ; The ending and the ending spot is fucking BO$$. Four stars for the second half of the match and two stars for the first half means this is a middle of the pack encounter ; Punk's second worst PPV match since CP 11.

So there you have it, Survivor Series 2012. Was it great ? NO. Was it good ? NO. Was it average ? NO. It's weird because the last half of this show isn't bad at all, and the three main events are all good, it's just they aren't good ENOUGH to sustain what should be a major PPV. No show stealing performances (and none that come close) and a few shitfests lead to this being a very mediocre PPV that I wouldn't really recommend to anybody. Watch the last three matches if you're REALLY bored, but there's a ton of better wrestling out there anyways. *** matches work as a supplement to a true show stealing match, but in no way shape or form should it be the best rated match on a major PPV.

Overall Score : 2.5