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Old 04-22-2012, 12:40 PM   #1451 (permalink)
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Judgment Day 2003

Brock Lesnar vs. Big Show (Stretcher Match) - ***

This was a pretty decent brawl between these two men. It's was nothing exceptional or mind blowing but felt very 'attitude era' which would appeal to a lot of people on here. The involvement of Rey I suppose was necessary as to bide time for Brock to bring in the forklift although I would have been happy not to see him at all. The ending was pretty cool as Brock was built up as the underdog as how was he going to knockdown and carry out his 7ft monster?

Good stuff, worth a watch if your bored, wouldn't go out of my way and see though.
The first 10 minutes are nothing extraordinary, but the last 3 minutes are pretty great. Lesnar & Big Show had this odd chemistry because Lesnar was strong enough to throw him around the ring. Their matches at Survivor Series, Royal Rumble, Judgment Day, and Smackdown (ring break) are all better than you would expect.

In terms of HBK-Angle @ Vengeance, yes it's a let down after their WrestleMania 21 match. I'd still peg it at ***1/2-****, but it's not a match I want to re-watch. Their 30 minute iron man match from Raw was better, at least I remember it as being better, but I haven't seen that match in years.
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Old 04-22-2012, 12:46 PM   #1452 (permalink)
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On last watch I still thought Vengeance match was better than WM match lol. I'll be re-watching it soon though. ATM I'd rank them like this:

Vengeance > WM > Raw Iron Man (good, nothing great) > Raw 06 (horrible, HORRIBLE match).
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Backlash 2003

Lesnar vs. Cena - ***1/4

This was a really intriguing match up if we compared it to today. Cena proved how good a worker he was even back in 2003 despite his wrestling skills were lacking but still improving. He came in as the heel in this matchup and actually generated cheers through the match and chant's 'lets go Cena' from the fans today that would shout 'fuck you Cena'. Lesnar in a way portrayed the character as Cena would today, get dominated for 10 minutes and fight back for the win and fans were actually booing Lesnar at one point because of this, thought that was interesting.

I enjoyed Cena here probably more than I do today because his workrate excels with him being the underdog and he shows more offensive skill set than he does today. He isn't the one getting beat up, he's the one beating up. I suppose it's just a breath of fresh air really.

Good stuff, be interesting to see where they go a week Sunday.
I really didn't enjoy this match whatsoever. I wouldn't have minded it on Smackdown or whatever but it just lacked something and I really didn't know what. I can remember being underwhelmed watching it the first time and when I watched it a few days back it still didn't live up. I don't regret watching it so to speak, I just won't watch it again, at least not for a good while. I expect tonight's match to be so much frickin' better, I hope it is anyway.

**3/4

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Eddie/Rey - ***3/4
MITB - ****1/2
Orton/Taker - ****1/4
Trish/Christy - *1/4 (as Trish was so hot)
Angle/HBK - ****
Cena/JBL - ** (average, such an average match)
Trips/Batista - ***
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Hulk Hogan (87) vs Steve Austin (99) vs John Cena (10)
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Batista/HHH - ***

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I'd do the same as you for the second one, as well.

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Thoughts on the HBK/Angle rematch at Vengeance?

It really hasn't held up too well. I think my childhood love for HBK and his matches is finally starting to go. This wasn't an all-out finisherfest but it did have some timing issues with the use of Angle Slams/Superkicks. Decent match that I used to think was great. ***
I think I preferred this to their WM match but it certainly wasn't what it could have been. I agree with the timing issues, really threw the match off balance and really hindered it. ***1/2

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John Cena vs. Randy Orton, I Quit Match, Breaking Point 09

I think this is one of my favorite Orton matches just for the performance he puts on. I love watching him slip further and further into madness lol. It's a great match up until the end of course which pisses me off every time I watch it. I'm a Cena fan but holy fuck does this piss me off when he wins matches, especially I Quit matches, like this. I love this match mostly for Orton. Really brutal. Those shots to Cena while he's cuffed to the post were sick. When you ignore the ending lol, it's one of the better matches in the Cena/Orton series imo.
One of Orton's best matches in terms of performance, IMO. I despise the ending as well but the match its self is well worth the watch just to witness how awesome Randy CAN be, especially his performance and portrayal of his character within a match - he really is one of the best in incorporating his character in to his matches, especially as a heel, even if the matches themselves aren't amazing. Another example would be Orton/Shane at NWO of the same year.
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Steamboat 89, Jericho 99, Edge 2006

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I really didn't enjoy this match whatsoever. I wouldn't have minded it on Smackdown or whatever but it just lacked something and I really didn't know what. I can remember being underwhelmed watching it the first time and when I watched it a few days back it still didn't live up. I don't regret watching it so to speak, I just won't watch it again, at least not for a good while. I expect tonight's match to be so much frickin' better, I hope it is anyway.

**3/4
I wouldn't have anyone go out of their way to see it. Their match is next week not tonight btw.
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After being disappointed during my re-watch of their Vengeance match, I decided to watch the rest of the series and I was pleasantly surprised by this gem. It features a minimal amount of problems you would find in a typical HBK or Angle match. Michaels doesn't no-sell his opponents work during his comebacks (He alters his kip-up and SCM antics to focus on his damaged ankle) and Angle doesn't spam the Olympic Slams. (I want to attack him for the two of them he did before the first fall; one on the outside and one from the top rope, but they just felt... right). ****
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Summerslam 2003

Kurt Angle vs. Brock Lesnar - ****

Nothing on their WM XIX match for me. Still a fantastic match up between these two who work so well together. Lesnar is having a pretty good 2003 from the matches I have watched so far. Not going into detail with this one, just watched it for pure enjoyment.

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Survivor Series 2003

Team Angle vs Team Lesnar - ***1/4

Poor booking here or I might be massively missing something. Cena and Benoit are left standing by beating Big Show. However Lesnar taps (again) and Angle is pinned 3/4 the way through. At times it felt all over the place and seemed overbooked with random brawls in the ring. Was enjoyable, especially for an opener, did the trick, Cena continues to build in 2003.

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