[Clique]

I'm still amazed at how awesome HHH/Batista and JBL/Cena turned out to be once they added gimmick matches to their feuds. It was a world of difference from the WM21 main events and they created two MOTYCs that are defining matches in Cena and Batista's careers imo.

[Brye]

WM 21

Eddie/Rey - ***1/2
MITB - ****3/4
Orton/Taker - ****1/4
Trish/Christy - Can't remember but I think it wasn't complete crap
Angle/HBK - ****1/2
Cena/JBL - *
Trips/Batista - **1/2

[The Corre]

Just watched the first disc of "The Best Of WCW Nitro". I thought it was a pretty good disc, the Pillman vs Liger match was one of the better matches on the dvd. No mention of Benoit, though you can see him at various times, and a "Benoit Rules" sign is blurred out.

I understand it's a best of Nitro dvd but a small clip of Hogan's heel turn would've been nice. A good dvd nontheless and I look forward to watching the remaining 2 discs.

[Word]

Backlash 2003

Lesnar vs. Cena - ***1/4

This was a really intriguing match up if we compared it to today. Cena proved how good a worker he was even back in 2003 despite his wrestling skills were lacking but still improving. He came in as the heel in this matchup and actually generated cheers through the match and chant's 'lets go Cena' from the fans today that would shout 'fuck you Cena'. Lesnar in a way portrayed the character as Cena would today, get dominated for 10 minutes and fight back for the win and fans were actually booing Lesnar at one point because of this, thought that was interesting.

I enjoyed Cena here probably more than I do today because his workrate excels with him being the underdog and he shows more offensive skill set than he does today. He isn't the one getting beat up, he's the one beating up. I suppose it's just a breath of fresh air really.

Good stuff, be interesting to see where they go a week Sunday.

[ThunderAngel]

WM 21 - ThunderAngel

Eddie/Rey - ***3/4
MITB - ****1/2
Orton/Taker - ****1/4
Trish/Christy - *1/4 (as Trish was so hot)
Angle/HBK - ****
Cena/JBL - ** (average, such an average match)
Trips/Batista - ***
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Little Idea I thought of: triple threat match between 3 decades, one for star power and the other for match quality. You can't have the same man in the same match so no hbk vs hbk vs hbk. .

Ricky Steamboat (84) vs Bret Hart (97) vs Chris Benoit (03)

Hulk Hogan (87) vs Steve Austin (99) vs John Cena (10)

[Big Z]

WM 21

Eddie/Rey - *
MITB - ****1/2
Orton/Taker - ****1/4
Trish/Christy - DUD
Angle/HBK - ****1/4
SUMO - DUD
Cena/JBL - DUD
Trips/Batista - **1/2

[Cactus]

Thoughts on the HBK/Angle rematch at Vengeance?

It really hasn't held up too well. I think my childhood love for HBK and his matches is finally starting to go. This wasn't an all-out finisherfest but it did have some timing issues with the use of Angle Slams/Superkicks. Decent match that I used to think was great. ***

[greendayedgehead]

I just... don't like it. Which is a disappointment considering their name value, I sat down in front of it and their previous Wrestlemania match expecting them both to easily get into my top favourites of all time. I only watched the Wrestlemania one as part of the entire show, but the Vengeance one was on the Shawn box set so I sat down, watched it. I didn't really think much of it but couldn't figure out why, so I guessed I must have been tired and watched it again on its own when I bought Vengeance. Still, nothing.

It's odd, because usually in matches I can pinpoint what I don't particularly like. Oh it's the pace here, or the lack of selling there. But both of these matches I just think little of and don't particularly know why. Not bad matches at all, just underwhelming considering their names.

HBK is still one of my favourites though, I haven't quite lost that fascination with him yet. vs Jericho at Wrestlemania XIX is one of my favourite matches, and I remember loving vs Edge at RR05. Should probably rewatch it.

Speaking of Edge, I just ordered his DVD. squee

[Starbuck]

John Cena vs. Randy Orton, I Quit Match, Breaking Point 09

I think this is one of my favorite Orton matches just for the performance he puts on. I love watching him slip further and further into madness lol. It's a great match up until the end of course which pisses me off every time I watch it. I'm a Cena fan but holy fuck does this piss me off when he wins matches, especially I Quit matches, like this. I love this match mostly for Orton. Really brutal. Those shots to Cena while he's cuffed to the post were sick. When you ignore the ending lol, it's one of the better matches in the Cena/Orton series imo.

[Word]

Judgment Day 2003

Brock Lesnar vs. Big Show (Stretcher Match) - ***

This was a pretty decent brawl between these two men. It's was nothing exceptional or mind blowing but felt very 'attitude era' which would appeal to a lot of people on here. The involvement of Rey I suppose was necessary as to bide time for Brock to bring in the forklift although I would have been happy not to see him at all. The ending was pretty cool as Brock was built up as the underdog as how was he going to knockdown and carry out his 7ft monster?

Good stuff, worth a watch if your bored, wouldn't go out of my way and see though.