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Old 01-16-2013, 07:20 PM   #14441 (permalink)
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jeff had some good matches vs umaga and triple H though
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:21 PM   #14442 (permalink)
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Punk vs Hardy Steel Cage is

in my top 5 best from 2009. I might have to rethink my rankings though as VIVA pimped one of the Punk vs Morrison matches as being the best of the year. Oh shoot. This reminds me I need to give the Taker/Henry match from 2006 a watch tonight too. I feel like crap though. Eh, if anything that means I should just cram wrestling. (I say this as I am watching WrestleMania 25 too )
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:25 PM   #14443 (permalink)
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jeff had some good matches vs umaga and triple H though
Not denying that. But as a general rule of thumb I just don't think the guy is very good at extending his selling into his comeback and building hope spots around it. He definitely had that emotional connection that Matt could never dream to match, but I always find myself thinking Matt is probably one of the more overlooked great sellers of this decade as opposed to Jeff. Like watch the 6/22/07 Matt vs Finlay match from Smackdown and find me a Jeff match where he sells anywhere near as good as Matt, whilst also building the match expertly around the injury and incorporating it into his comebacks.

Jeff's a really fun and nutty bumper who can be utilised in the right settings, but people like Matt, Christian and Masters would be comfortably closer to what I'd call an all round great seller as opposed to Jeff.
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You know who I find to be an awful seller? The Rock

But thats probably because he only worked wwe attitude era style main events
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Only good sell by Rock was the overselling of the Stunner b/c it was outlandish.
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He had that Hogan vibe to his work where his charisma shone through in his matches and pulled the viewer in, even if as in a purely technical sense he wasn't close to being a great seller. I suppose his ability to connect with the crowd can't be overlooked though. He was an excellent FIP for different reasons than someone like Eddie, Benoit, Christian or Matt Hardy.

That being said the Attitude Era style wasn't exactly built on selling. The brawls and fast paced nature basically replaced the prior style of slow build title matches that you saw from guys like Bret, Owen and Mankind in the Mind Games title defence.
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Matt Hardy's selling in the Hardy/Edge feud owned. Watched a couple of those matches the other day and they're really good.
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True Brye. His selling at Summerslam as Edge is beating the piss out of him in the ropes was majestic. Helped that Edge pulled no punches either and delivered some pretty unexpectedly great strikes of his own, but Matt's selling really got over the damage. Reminded me of Regal's selling in Regal/Ambrose II from this year with both crumpled in the ropes, barely able to register a response to the referee.

Edge/Hardy Summerslam rules as well btw, pretty sure I've said it before. Might be one of the best sub 10 minute matches the company has ever done. I get why people hate it in terms of making Matt look weak, but I find it a great way to build to Unforgiven as Matt's redemption whilst putting over the threat that Edge really wants to brutalise Matt and won't be merciful.
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Matt Hardy's selling in the Hardy/Edge feud owned. Watched a couple of those matches the other day and they're really good.


Another steel cage match that makes me

Oh hey, Undertaker vs Shawn Michaels time. No big deal.
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Is there a better WWE cage match than Matt Hardy v Edge? Maybe HHH/Flair. Can't think of anything else I've seen that would rival it. Jeff Hardy v Punk rounds out my top 3 but I might be forgetting something.
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