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Old 01-16-2013, 06:34 PM   #14431 (permalink)
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Koko Fucking Ware.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:36 PM   #14432 (permalink)
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Koko Fucking Ware.
See he did earn that HOF induction

Glad you posted the videos Woolcock. I'll have to check out this and more Memphis. Your review is epic.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:40 PM   #14433 (permalink)
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I need to give this type of wrestling a chance. I need to know more about the characters to get a better understanding of what makes these matches so great.
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:42 PM   #14434 (permalink)
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Clique I'll link you to Duggan/Sawyer x2 if you wish. The 11/11/85 match is amazing and immediately struck me as being similar to Lawler/Flair in terms of the post match angle almost being as good as the actual match, although I find the bell to bell here better than in Lawler/Flair.

11/11/85: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xw0...2#.UPdHqWfz6_s

12/27/85: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_kNyvCWMHGs

Also, Koko fucking Ware. I get in terms of longevity and impact people look at his induction as something of a joke, but the man's talent can't be stated enough. The Flair title match, this scaffold match, the Mantell/King Cobra vs Eaton/Sugar 7/19/82 tag which is amazing and hardly anyone talks about. KOKO.


@ TLK: you'd only need to know about Dundee's backstory for the Lawler matches mainly, though they're great enough in their own right so its not like not knowing every instance of the feud is mandatory. Basically in this match, Dundee is the face and touted as being the king of the scaffold match due to his construction work in Australia as a youth and assisting in the setup of trapieze work for the circus. He's billed as being comfortable around heights whereas Koko is scared shitless. The rest is just simple build, pacing and dramatic athleticism from Dundee that leaves you scared at the possible falls he could take. So many dangerous spots from both men that could have ended in tragedy if one slipped at the wrong time.

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Old 01-16-2013, 06:44 PM   #14435 (permalink)
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I couldn't care less about the fact he did nothing in WWF (AND THAT WASN'T HIS FAULT), the fact he's in the HOF is AWESOME! He's a great wrestler...like, at his best he's just got everything down. Just everything. I hate it when people talk him down. #1 because they're completely wrong, and #2 because they're likely full of shit and haven't even bothered to watch anything from him. They're just 'Oh the bird guy - SHOULDN'T BE IN HALL OF FAME'. I mean he shouldn't be, but.....I like the fact he is. He was a really good wrestler no matter what. I don't remember a match where Koko didn't look somewhat good. People should stop bagging him. Like, right fucking now. Or, if you're going to bag him, give more reasons then "he didn't get a title 'n' shouldn't be HOF 'n' shit". And FFS......watch him before saying anything. I'm not sure anybody who bags him would actually be reading this (I haven't heard any bagging of Koko in this thread specifically), but Koko Fucking Ware.

Doesn't help that pretty much 100% of his best matches/performances happened outside WWF. I've found some WWF Koko I've REALLY liked, but not a true hidden diamond that I hope exists.

KOKO FUCKING WARE
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Oh I love the fact he's in there, man was a good enough talent to deserve some recognition even if people won't associate his name placement with his great work prior to WWF/E. He was a great heel, astute bumper, great in the title match vs Flair and against heel Lawler in the studio match in Memphis. Had balls of steel to work the scaffold match and do some of the false stunts he did against Dundee.

KOKO FUCKING WARE.
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Ok I'll comment on some stuff that was discussed today:

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hated angle/benoit when i first saw it. could be the only person who did.

sure it looks nice, but i didnt give a shit. boring. dull. and it was more like a ballet than a fight
I hated it too the first few times I watched it. You're not alone there.

Angle vs Benoit from Rumble was OMG 5 STARS last time I watched. Haven't watched it in honestly like 2 years tho. Almost went through Royal Rumble 2003 today. So I'll eventually relive it again and see if it holds up. Have a feeling it won't now that I tend to notice all the flaws about Angle.

Angle vs Mysterio from Summerslam 2002 is probably the GOAT Angle match for me though. Mysterio's instant credibility of consistency + Angle working 88 miles per hour was probably the best combo possible. Which is what led it to being amazing for me.

@ Undertaker vs Triple H from KOTR '02. It makes WrestleMania 27 look amazing by comparison. (that match is pretty meh too btw)

ummmmmmmmmm I think that's it. Jim Duggan is awesome. Although my territory was the MAJOR one aka CROCKETTS. That's the one I tend to pimp often enough. Said it 100x that I should always pursue more Mid-South any chance I can, yada yada yada.
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:10 PM   #14438 (permalink)
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Jeff Hardy (c) vs. CM Punk: TLC Match for the World Heavyweight Championship - Summerslam 2009 ****1/2

The penultimate match from their 2009 feud and what an exciting match this was! I thought that they both demonstrated how personal the feud had become and how they showed their hatred with one another really well. From CM Punk trying to wrap a chair around Hardy's neck like a noose and Hardy going mad near the end, hitting Punk with multiple chair shots showed how much they hated each other and made me invested in the match. There were some cool spots like Punk slamming Hardy's back onto the edge of the chair, the superplex onto the ladder, and Hardy's Swanton Bomb from the ladder onto Punk, crushing the announcer's table. Hardy receives medical attention as a result, Punk tries to crawl his way into climbing the ladder, Jeff realizes this, shoves the medical staff away, and goes for one last brigade to stop Punk, but ultimately failed to win. Just a great and exciting match all around.

I also feel that Jeff Hardy is underrated when it comes to being a babyface worker. He's a great seller, gets the crowd involved, and plays the "babyface in peril" really well. Thoughts?
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Old 01-16-2013, 07:12 PM   #14439 (permalink)
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why was koko b ware called sweet brown sugar when hes clearly black as hell

yes, i went there
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Embrace the Koko love Redead.

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I also feel that Jeff Hardy is underrated when it comes to being a babyface worker. He's a great seller, gets the crowd involved, and plays the "babyface in peril" really well. Thoughts?
Can't remember much about the TLC encounter, but I know I considered their Cage match and feud ender to be the best match of the series by a fair margin.

As for Hardy. Ehh I don't really like him. Sure he's fun to bump maniacally and nearly cripple himself on bumps, but I don't think he strings together his selling and builds his matches around it anywhere nearly as much as Matt does if we're comparing the Hardy brothers. Matt's the better seller, will build his matches and comeback around it and will take the time to sell it throughout his comeback and in really smart and unique ways.

Its strange. Jeff has the Morton/Steamboat ability to pull a crowd into his beating in a way Matt couldn't match, but Matt is far closer to Morton/Steamboat in terms of actually selling and building smart and creative comebacks wherever as Jeff's feel generally more aimless and lackluster.
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