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Unforgiven 2007

CM Punk vs Elijah Burke : *** (1)

Matt Hardy/MVP vs Deuce N’ Domino : * 1/4 (-.5)

Triple H vs Carlito : * ¾ (0)

Candice Michelle vs Beth Phoenix : * (-1)

The Great Khali vs Rey Mysterio vs Batista : * ¾ (0)

Lance Cade/Trevor Murdoch vs Paul London/Brian Kendrick : ** ¾ (.5)

John Cena vs Randy Orton : 1/2* (-1)

The Undertaker vs Mark Henry : ** 1/4 (0)

MOTN : Punk/Burke

WMOTN : Cena/Orton

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This FUCKING PPV. I spent a good 20 minutes before I watched this looking at reviews for this PPV and I saw nothing but shit. I was petrified at what I was going to have to witness, wondering why I spent my money on such a lackluster PPV. I was prepared for the worst, but when I saw the opener of Punk vs Burke I was pleasantly surprised at how good it actually was. Psychology was great, Punk was sharp, Burke was stiff as fuck.. Just a damn good match. However, my optimism quickly took a 180 when the next match I saw featured the likes of DEUCE N' DOMINO, the worst fucking tag team ever. Surprisingly Matt and MVP got absolutely nothing out of them, and it just sucked balls and failed as a tag match with only a good moment or two.

I saw a Triple H match that I actually didn't like, bar the last minute or so where Trips completely BURIES Carlito in one of the more hilarious and satisfying burials Trips has had in his long storied career or burying. Fuck Carlito, he deserves it for giving Trips such a bad match. Still, as a Trips fan I saw a ton of positives in the match the second time I wathed it due to Carlito essentially posing no threat whatsoever. Not a bad match, but definitely not a good one at all.

BETH was great in the Divas match, but that didn't stop it from sucking balls due to Candice having a complete inability to work any match whatsoever. Terrible, terrible match and was the THIRD match in a row that was sub TWO snowflakes.

Of course the trend of shitty matches continued with the World Heavyweight Championship on the line. Naturally this is good for KHALI standards, but it was still a horribly worked match that THANKFULLY stays short and THANKFULLY has a pretty damn awesome ending to send the fans and myself into a frenzy as Khali finally drops the belt he never should have gotten in the first place. The length of the match is LOLworthy and Batista-Mysterio would have been much better, but when you factor in that KHALI was in it, it's actually not that bad.

The tag match was above average, with some solid work throughout. It would probably be rated higher if I felt any kind of emotional attachment to Cade or Murdoch's characters like perhaps some do, but that's just not my slice of pie right there. TEAM ROH rocked in this though and made it a pretty damn good match. Would have been just a middle of the pack match on any decent PPV, but on this pile of shit it looks like gold.

John Cena vs Randy Orton... FUCK YOU. All I'm gonna say about this match before my head explodes from rage is this ; two minute long resthold in a seven minute match with a terrible ending.. All of you Cena/Orton Savants, take a look at this match right fucking now and you'll want to poke your damn eyes out. Only positive and the reason why it's not a dud is CRAZY CENA at the end. Warrants a half a star and a half a star it shall receive.

The main event had a legit feel good big time moment in Taker's return, and I actually liked the match quite a bit. Granted, it could have been due to the fact that the match is universally trashed, but for some reason I just like DOUBLE MARKS work together as a big man vs big man style. Henry can turn it on when he's in there with GOAT talent, and Taker brought his all as he knew the fans probably weren't gonna respond to this one. Great ending to the match as well, and while the pace was deliberately slow I thought it added to the structure of the match. Obviously not a GREAT match or even a GOOD match really... Just your average contest. Not main event worthy whatsoever though.

This PPV has a NEGATIVE score on the CAL SCALE, that should tell you how I feel about this one. Avoid at all costs, there is absolutely nothing on this PPV going out of your way to see unless you're a huge Taker fan and you wanna see his pretty epic looking return and subsequent match against Henry. I'm going to go out on a limb and say this could be the worst PPV I've ever seen in my entire life, and that's saying something. I know for a fact there hasn't been a worse show since it happened, that's for sure.

A low point in the company, creatively and definitely from a workrate standpoint.

Overall Score : - 0.5

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Henry and Taker never got a PPV match to REALLY work. They had a pretty awesome match on SmackDown in 2006 that I posted a while back that nobody watched, and then a re-match that could have been as good had Khali not debuted his worthless ass for the finish. I really want to see their "WrestleMania Re-Match" casket match from TV whenever it was, because I would be less than surprised if it was a lot better than the actual Mania match (which should have had no gimmick and should just been a 7 foot man pretending to a zombie and a 400 lb fat sweaty black man pounding each other in the face, AKA their pretty awesome SmackDown 06 match).

They just couldn't seem to click when the spotlight was on them.

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Henry and Taker never got a PPV match to REALLY work. They had a pretty awesome match on SmackDown in 2006 that I posted a while back that nobody watched, and then a re-match that could have been as good had Khali not debuted his worthless ass for the finish. I really want to see their "WrestleMania Re-Match" casket match from TV whenever it was, because I would be less than surprised if it was a lot better than the actual Mania match (which should have had no gimmick and should just been a 7 foot man pretending to a zombie and a 400 lb fat sweaty black man pounding each other in the face, AKA their pretty awesome SmackDown 06 match).

They just couldn't seem to click when the spotlight was on them.
The light was too bright for a zombie and a man with dark skin, obviously.

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Henry and Taker never got a PPV match to REALLY work. They had a pretty awesome match on SmackDown in 2006 that I posted a while back that nobody watched, and then a re-match that could have been as good had Khali not debuted his worthless ass for the finish. I really want to see their "WrestleMania Re-Match" casket match from TV whenever it was, because I would be less than surprised if it was a lot better than the actual Mania match (which should have had no gimmick and should just been a 7 foot man pretending to a zombie and a 400 lb fat sweaty black man pounding each other in the face, AKA their pretty awesome SmackDown 06 match).

They just couldn't seem to click when the spotlight was on them.
post that match again plz

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Rewatching Hell in a Cell 2012 before I go to bed.

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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5a...t#.UPZhbycsmSo

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and the video goes over 16 minutes too. Hopefully Deadman's entrance doesn't suck up too much of that time. If this rapes the Casket match like you say then DAMMIT at them not killing it at Mania.

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What would you guys consider to be the most consistent ppv through the years in usefully delivering a good-great show? My pick would be Backlash/Extreme Rules. All the Extreme Rules ppv's that took place since it got the Backlash spot have been good. And before that Backlash used to be pretty consistent as well, 2009, 2008 (bit hit and miss), 2007, 2004, 2001 (I really liked it) and 2000 is def top 5 best WWE ppv ever.

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Harder for me to claim with WWE than it is with TNA. WWE seems to be a tad bit more sporadic with which PPVs tend to be consistent. Unforgiven & No Mercy for the majority tend to have delivered. Only bad event from either franchise was Unforgiven 2007. Rest seemed to click upon my memory. No Mercy 2008 was GREAT.

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Piper/Valentine is such an incredible fight. If it happened in WWE I'd probably call it a top 30 WWE match ever. That miiiiiiight be stretching it because I haven't seen it in years, but thinking about some of the stuff I would have for a top 30 in WWE, Piper/Valentine would probably be fucking with it. Roddy Piper is one of the best "I will actually kill you" wrestlers ever. Like, a lot of wrestlers do 'hate' really well, but when he hates someone you get that feeling that he's absolutely willing to beat them to death and go to jail with a smile on his face knowing that he accomplished his goal of murdering whoever pissed him off. Probably the most charismatic wrestler off all time, as well. Valentine is just your stiff-as-shit ultimate break-your-face badass. Both guys will brawl when the match isn't even a brawl and this was a motherfucking brawl and it's amazing and MILLIONBILLION/10.
Agreed. Insanely violent and a tremendous usage of the stipulation to convey the hate and some disgusting shots from both men. Not sure I'd go top 30, mainly because of all the rewatching and having to compare clean wrestling matches with character work against a stiff chain brawl would just frazzle my noggin and fuck that. My brain is all I have.

Duggan/Sawyer really blew me away though. The actual match itself was wonderful but the post match angle and pull apart brawl, combined with Duggan cussing and Sawyer selling the ordeal like a blood thirsty lunatic who won't fall down until he's gotten every bit of Duggan he can..man it was up there with the best of Memphis in terms of matches that turn into angles by the end. Got the return Chain match and Dundee/Koko Scaffold match to watch later today

P.S Bless your soul for giving me Finlay/Callihan. Well worth the wait if you haven't already seen it. I'll rep you constant pics of asians as payment, no promises on one of them not being Skittle
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