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Old 01-15-2013, 07:39 PM   #14291 (permalink)
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Rating for the cage match? Should I watch it?
Yeah, it's worth watching. It's extremely entertaining and Dolph is his usual great self. Yeah, Cena did kick out of a lot of stuff but they have to make him look nearly unbeatable going into his Wrestlemania main event against The Rock. Nobody is going to remember this match once Dolph becomes World Heavyweight Champion anyway so I'm not getting the bitching about the match and how Dolph was "buried."
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Old 01-15-2013, 07:41 PM   #14292 (permalink)
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Some random ratings before I'm out of this.

The Rock vs Chris Jericho (NM 01) - ★★★★½
Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels - (NM 08) - ★★★★
Triple H vs Jeff Hardy (NM 08) - ★★★¾

Gonna watch Taker/Show from NM sometime soon as well.
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****1/4
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Ladder demands more LOVIN. Taker vs Show is
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Beating Ziggler two weeks in a row in such convincing fashion makes no sense for a company that is in need of new stars. An interesting strategy going forward for sure.

We're staring Cena & Rock II straight in the face.
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No, this is well worth complaining about. Only b/c it makes zero sense. The ONLY logical aspect I can think the company is going for is a two pronged attacked:

1) Cena begins the year off in a furiously strong way. Owning DOLPH at every turn and eventually winning the Royal Rumble to make up for the ghastly affair that was his 2012. (Rock wins vs Punker and there you go)

2) Dolph gets in a rut. That mini-angle has formed with the clouded murmuring that he can't get himself to the higher level. that goes on for a bit until he cashes in. he breaks the ceiling and goes from there. kind of Danielson fashion of being down until he cashes in only to send him on a strong path as World Champ for a bit.
All of this makes sense but they can do it without burying Dolph's offense and making him look like shit.
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The problem with the cage match for me has more to do with how Cena won. He basically had the match won like 2 or 3 times before finally pinning Ziggler.... Ziggler hit him with all of his finishing moves and Cena kicked out of all of them. Without Big E. Langston and AJ Lee, Cena would've had this match won a total of 3 times while Ziggler ends up with zero.

And yeah, no near falls at all for Dolph. He loses after one Attitude Adjustment. I just wouldn't care if he won the title because of how poorly he's being booked. He looks weak.

Why would it have mattered if Cena lost last night? it wouldn't have hurt him or the "rock vs. cena part II match" at all. He just defeated Ziggler two weeks in a row on television. It doesn't make any sense, really...
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Yeah, it's worth watching. It's extremely entertaining and Dolph is his usual great self. Yeah, Cena did kick out of a lot of stuff but they have to make him look nearly unbeatable going into his Wrestlemania main event against The Rock. Nobody is going to remember this match once Dolph becomes World Heavyweight Champion anyway so I'm not getting the bitching about the match and how Dolph was "buried."
I wouldn't say Dolph was 'buried'. He did win that important PPV ladder match so he looks okay. It's just they had a chance to make him look even better with these two matches but instead they just gave Cena two decisive wins for no real reason.

But yes, the match is still great fun to watch. Last week's match was good too.
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All of this makes sense but they can do it without burying Dolph's offense and making him look like shit.
Of course they can. That's what makes the "burial" stuff so tragic.

Hyperbole, but it's a lame turn of events any way you slice it.
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Yep, just for the record, I don't have a problem with Cena beating Dolph in a logical way. It can be done. But to do it in that fashion AND two Raws in a row is just counter-productive in making a new star and doesn't make much sense in the circumstance of the current storyline.
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I wouldn't say Dolph was 'buried'. He did win that important PPV ladder match so he looks okay. It's just they had a chance to make him look even better with these two matches but instead they just gave Cena two decisive wins for no real reason.

But yes, the match is still great fun to watch. Last week's match was good too.
I agree that the matches were fun (especially the cage match), but Ziggler needed to look better in that Ladder Match and not job two weeks in a row to Cena if they want to build him up as the future champion. Otherwise he's just some midcarder who doesn't belong in the ring with John.
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Of course they can. That's what makes the "burial" stuff so tragic.

Hyperbole, but it's a lame turn of events any way you slice it.
Exactly. And it's not nitpicking or SMARK RAGE or anything like that. I get what they're going for. Building up Cena to have a huge 2013 and all that. That's fine. I have no problem with the face of the company going over Ziggler twice in a row but it's the manner in which they've done it that sucks balls.

The whole 2013 being Cena's year thing is another reason why he should have lost to Lesnar last year. Cena getting back to his best this year would've been more important and just better if he had lost to Rock, Brock and whoever else in 2012.
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