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Old 01-14-2013, 02:38 PM   #14171 (permalink)
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WWF Smackdown 05/31/2001 - WWF World Championship: Stone Cold Steve Austin (w/ Vince McMahon) vs. Chris Benoit

This was a match for Stone Cold's WWE Championship and it was fought in Benoit's hometown of Edmonton so the crowd extra pumped and the HEAT Austin got was serious. I can without a doubt call this a "fucking classic". The psychology in this was off the charts and Benoit's intensity and determination are amazing, but this is largely this was Austin's best showing as a heel as he played some kind of psychotic sociopath who will do what ever it takes to keep that WWE Championship, plus some of his facial expressions here just put over how bionic and insane he was during this heel turn. I should also mention the rib work but Austin is some of the best work done by Austin ever and the announce table spots, WOW! And this also has the epic 10 German Suplexes spot. ****3/4
This match is one of my favorite free TV matches of all time right along with the British Bulldog vs Owen Hart for the European title on Raw in Germany and Bret Hart vs Chris Benoit for the WCW title in an Owen Hart tribute match on Nitro. This is such an underrated match that had great brawling and technical wrestling in it. Both Austin and Benoit could have worked more great matches with each other but it's such a shame they didn't have that many ring encounters with one another. I'd consider that match a classic.

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Old 01-14-2013, 02:43 PM   #14172 (permalink)
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I'm of the opinion Austin's performance at Summerslam against Angle may be his greatest during 2001, but the Benoit Edmonton match alongside his performance against Rock at Wrestlemania really aren't far behind. Pretty much a perfect TV match with a ridiculous crowd, a great pacing and a character dynamic the fans were invested in. Summerslam though as I said may be his peak. He just comes off as such a demented, obsessed and paranoid psycho determined to overcome Angle's threat and he manages to revert from cowardly weasel into demented blood thirsty maniac so effortlessly. Reminds me of Eddie against Rey from Smackdown 6/23/05 and how Eddie somehow manages to alternate between an obsessed yet determined individual looking to best Rey at his own game and prove his talent beyond question...and then when things begin to look bleak he has this expression that says he'll rip Rey's bollocks off and forcefeed them to him whilst beating him to a pulp because he can.
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Old 01-14-2013, 03:42 PM   #14174 (permalink)
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Benoit/Austin is probably the greatest TV match in WWE history. Just too damn good. Impressive that in 4 TV events in a row, Benoit took part in FOUR great matches. 4 out of 4 for the Wolverine!

And one of the suplexes Benoit took on the announce table was just brutal. Looked like he landed rib first on the edge of the table and almost landed on his head on the floor. Yet he still had the guts and will to do the 10 German spot.

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I'm of the opinion Austin's performance at Summerslam against Angle may be his greatest during 2001, but the Benoit Edmonton match alongside his performance against Rock at Wrestlemania really aren't far behind. Pretty much a perfect TV match with a ridiculous crowd, a great pacing and a character dynamic the fans were invested in. Summerslam though as I said may be his peak. He just comes off as such a demented, obsessed and paranoid psycho determined to overcome Angle's threat and he manages to revert from cowardly weasel into demented blood thirsty maniac so effortlessly. Reminds me of Eddie against Rey from Smackdown 6/23/05 and how Eddie somehow manages to alternate between an obsessed yet determined individual looking to best Rey at his own game and prove his talent beyond question...and then when things begin to look bleak he has this expression that says he'll rip Rey's bollocks off and forcefeed them to him whilst beating him to a pulp because he can.
I don't understand this at all. To me, it was just a great mat wrestling clinic. There really was no "Eddie is obsessed and going psycho" feeling to the match at all. They just wrestled their ass off and nothing more than that. In regards of storytelling, I take their Judgment Day match as a better example with Eddie badly wanting to beat Rey. One of my favorite parts of that match is when he tosses Rey in the ring then out again to break the count like a little child. Got a chuckle out of that one.
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It was a deliberate light hearted exaggeration on my part to joke about how convincing Eddie was in that feud as a pyscho nutjob, but I've always thought of it more as a character documentation on Eddie's part to go alongside the wrestling. He starts out trying to get in Rey's head, offering the hand and trying to outwrestle him. Then his plan falls apart and he grows more violent and unhinged and turns more physical and settles on destroying Rey and trying to win the match that way, only to slowly grow incensed as Mysterio won't be beaten and eventually succumbing to another soul-crushing defeat.
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Oh, I understand what you're trying to say. I just meant that I don't see it at all. To me, it felt like a basic wrestling classic between the two without much character work on par with the "Eddie wants to beat Rey" story. I just didn't find Eddie to be that violent. The most I got out of it was that evil grin on Eddie's face after the loss in the end. Still a great match, I just don't look it the same way as you do.
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Austin when he makes everybody eat Debra's cookies. Then Stephanie singing Wind Beneath My Ring is hilarious lol.
Debra's fucking cookies.

I remember one show she gave them to him on the tray and right when she turned around he spilled them everywhere and was acting so disappointed.
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Austin's face when having to eat her cookies on some random RAW or Smackdown was priceless. Oh, and Austin vs Angle gets top billing for me as Austin's best work from 2001. I'm sure the Benoit match follows it only by a hair. Both of which RAPE the match vs Rock at WrestleMania 17 & vs Trips at NWO. (which by some seem to get more praise when I personally feel it should be the opposite)

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Prime Time Players vs Usos
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Mike Mizanin vs TENSAI
Prime Time Players vs Zack Ryder/Brodus Clay

Not expecting too much. Tensai's match could be fun. Horribly optimistic b/c it's a first time ever meeting so it sparked interest.
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All those matches suck. Tensai/Miz is ok though. Nowt special, but more watchable (and more worth your time) that the rest of the shit .

Watching RR 02. Flair/Vince shocked the crap out of me. Used to hate it!
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Thankfully the match I care to see is the only decent of the bunch.

Ugh, I HATE Flair vs Vince. Has to be the only Vince match I don't mark out for. You'd think a brawl vs RIC FLAIR would work too.
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