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Old 01-14-2013, 11:38 AM   #14141 (permalink)
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Yeah, I've grown weary of recent LMS matches so this sounds like a refreshing change of pace. Excited to give it a watch. Is the link you posted on the last page of this thread the complete match?
As complete as I can find tbh. It appears they edited part of the match for TV, as the spoiler report mentions two KO punches and we only see one. It goes 14-15 mins and with only 1 commercial break, so can't imagine there's a more complete version lying about.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:39 AM   #14142 (permalink)
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Speaking of could have been better, the 1999 RR. What a load of shite that was. Thoughts on my BLOG~! Shame that the hottest period of the company gave us some of the worst matches, TV shows and PPV events ever.
Nice write-up. I was just watching Beyond The Mat the other night and to get another perspective (i.e Foley's family & backstage footage) of the match, it was legitimately a brutal match. Mick's freaking skull was split wide open from one of those multiple (unprotected) chair shots! Foley took brutal bumps like only he would and both guys came out of it looking better. I love how Foley can create these matches with guys like Rock, Michaels, HHH, Orton and Edge that tells the story of the opponent being forced to up their physicality level to challenge Mankind/Cactus Jack who has such a high threshold for pain. Even Undertaker had never been tested like he was before he came across Mankind in 96.

I agree that the rest of the 1999 Rumble event was pretty woeful.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:40 AM   #14143 (permalink)
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LMS suits heel Show down to the ground. He's always best dominating at a methodical pace and that's a simple and effective formula for LMS once the babyface holds up his end of the bargain.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:40 AM   #14144 (permalink)
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Meh, I always count 2002 as AE. Hell, I've read/heard alot of people claiming it goes to 2003. DAT TV 14

1998 was fantastic, though. One of the best years in wrestling. Even WCW was still entertaining. It was clear that the tide was starting to turn and WWF was red hot and on fire, but WCW was still at least good. Combine WCW's last year of good programming with the WWF being on absolute fire and it was one of the better years in wrestling history. Again, certainly better than 2012.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:46 AM   #14145 (permalink)
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I enjoyed 2012, just because of the awesome matches we got. Beats the fuck out of 1998 . 98 and 99 were only any good for the main event scene. Austin, Foley, Undertaker, Kane, Big Show, HHH, Rock (I guess) etc. Undercard was usually trash. LOS BURIQUAS (fuck looking up the spelling), BIKER GANG, THAT STRANGE MILITARY GANG, ODDITIES, JOB SQUAD. Urgh .

Also, since Clique brought it up, I fucking HATE that Beyond The Mat documentary. Didn't think it was good, and it made wrestling look like shit. Plus they fucked over Jake Roberts.
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Old 01-14-2013, 11:56 AM   #14146 (permalink)
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I really didn't think 2012 matches were all that great. Punk/Bryan OTL, Trips/Taker WM, Lesnar/Cena meh.

I'll take the combination of great weekly television, solid matches, logical storylines (and for more than just a handful of people) that makes sense (novel concept in senile Vince's mind these days), and just a better overall product. 2012 was shit on a stick being sold by a 70 year old man.
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Late 90s undercard was legit fucking terrible. Seemed to get way better once they acquired the WCW talent (Jericho, Rey, Eddie, Benoit, etc.).
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I thought there were tons of great TV and PPV matches in 2012, so I obviously liked it a lot more .

Good storylines + good wrestling would be great, but that rarely happens at the same time. 2000 is the best example (and the greatest year in WWF history ). I genuinely do not think there was a single bad Raw or SD in 2000. Same for 2001. If something sucked on the show, you can be guaranteed that there would be a bunch of other stuff that didn't. These days its the other way around. On a 3 hour Raw we are lucky to get 1 or 2 good matches, followed by 5 or 6 shit matches and a bunch of god awful segments and promos.
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Old 01-14-2013, 12:09 PM   #14149 (permalink)
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I thought there were tons of great TV and PPV matches in 2012, so I obviously liked it a lot more .

Good storylines + good wrestling would be great, but that rarely happens at the same time. 2000 is the best example (and the greatest year in WWF history ). I genuinely do not think there was a single bad Raw or SD in 2000. Same for 2001. If something sucked on the show, you can be guaranteed that there would be a bunch of other stuff that didn't. These days its the other way around. On a 3 hour Raw we are lucky to get 1 or 2 good matches, followed by 5 or 6 shit matches and a bunch of god awful segments and promos.
Very true, we are in agreement there. They were struggling to put on good shows before they went to 3 hours. Going 3 hours has made it an absolute chore to watch Raw. I used to look forward to Raw on Tuesday mornings. 2012 saw me change the channel alot, even before they went to 3 hours. Too many bad backstage segments and the like.

I think WWE should do what Nitro did when they went 3 hours. Use the first hour mostly for the under/mid card to put on good wrestling matches and give those guys some quality television time. The same way Nitro used their first hour for the cruiserweight division. Then, for hours 2 and 3 the upper-midcard and main eventers do their thing.

But we all know that isn't going to happen. God forbid someone like Tyson Kidd (or someone else low on the card who has talent) (pre-injury) get to put on a good 10 minute match in the first hour of Raw. Can't do that. Need more backstage segments!
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I thought there were tons of great TV and PPV matches in 2012, so I obviously liked it a lot more .

Good storylines + good wrestling would be great, but that rarely happens at the same time. 2000 is the best example (and the greatest year in WWF history ). I genuinely do not think there was a single bad Raw or SD in 2000. Same for 2001. If something sucked on the show, you can be guaranteed that there would be a bunch of other stuff that didn't. These days its the other way around. On a 3 hour Raw we are lucky to get 1 or 2 good matches, followed by 5 or 6 shit matches and a bunch of god awful segments and promos.
Just got through watching the Jan 10th, 2000 Raw show and all of this is 100% true.

- Show opens with Rock demanding the return of Foley or else the entire roster will walk on Trips and Stephanie
- They rehire Mick and the title match is set for MSG at the Rumble
- Rock sets up Billy Gunn vs. Road Dogg and Triple H vs. X-Pac along with a massive main event in Rock/Foley/Acolytes vs. DX
- DX is at war with each other throughout the course of the night in their matches and in the back
- Main event DX walk out on HHH and leave him with Foley
- Trips and Foley end up having an awesome brawl, PEDIGREE THROUGH THE ANNOUNCE TABLE!!!!
- Foley rips his mask off and comes back fighting even though HHH wins the match
- Show ends with Trips looking he's seen a ghost as Foley stands tall in the ring despite everything he just did to him, foreshadowing the awesome SD promo and return of Cactus Jack

I haven't even touched the midcard yet. All of this in 1 fucking show. The gap in quality from back then and now is just ridiculous tbh.
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