[Green Light]

Both guys getting booed to close out Wrestlemania would be quite a moment.

[AussieBoy97]

Originally Posted by ShowStopper '97

I loved how Cena kicked out of like four finishers in a matter of like 60 seconds and Ziggler got pinned after one finisher.

Yup.

Buried.

And the writers have to step up The Rock's promo lines. They're not funny.

They should get CM Punk to write them. That dude has the best mic skills in the history of wrestling imo. And most of his promo's are unscripted - obviously.

[Starbuck]

I'd be into a Cena redemption storyline if he acted like he gave a fuck about anything. Him laughing everything off makes me feel no sympathy for him though. Horrible storytelling and if that is the closing image of Mania 29 then NYC is going to shit all over Cena AND Rock for doing it lol. They should make it NODQ, have Cena go mad with weapons and lay a sick beatdown on Rock, embrace the hate he'll no doubt get from the fans, turn heel, win the title, lay Rock out after the match, flip off the fans and come out on Raw the next night wearing a suit, all serious and as the actual personification of what everybody hates him for. Then...

GONG

Cena troll smile. Mania 30, he's coming after the streak. Every wrestling fan in the world shits their pants.

Wrestlemania 30 - Heel John Cena vs. The Undertaker

BOOM!

[Obfuscation]

Originally Posted by Starbuck

Don't know why you would need a DVD to tell you that lol. The payoff to all this was never for Punk to go over. It's for Rock to win the title after all this time and to most likely pay back for his loss last year. I'll legit be shocked if A) Rock doesn't win at Rumble and B) He doesn't fight Cena at Mania for the title.

b/c I'm clinging to the only tiny margin Punk has & not hoping that this company ruins a 400+ reign just to give it to Dwayne only to have him lose to Cena to make everything come full circle towards a match that was billed to never happen again. Feels...dumb.

I'm not happy about any of it. Well, Cena getting his win back yes. But at the expense of Punk's championship reign, then no.

[Starbuck]

Originally Posted by Hailsabin

b/c I'm clinging to the only tiny margin Punk has & not hoping that this company ruins a 400+ reign just to give it to Dwayne only to have him lose to Cena to make everything come full circle towards a match that was billed to never happen again. Feels...dumb.

I'm not happy about any of it. Well, Cena getting his win back yes. But at the expense of Punk's championship reign, then no.

You had to know it was coming though. Today and the past few years, WWE begins and ends with John Cena. I'm a mark for Cena and I know you are too but his booking is and has been hurting everybody around him lately more than helping. He's a big problem right now and the only way out of it is a heel turn but I fear it will never happen and so we're stuck with Cena overcoming the odds storyline #587978923749 because everything in that company begins and ends with John Cena's smiling face.

[WOOLCOCK]

Starbuck pretty much nailed it in regards to Cena the character, there's a ton of directions they could go to make an interesting and gripping arc but anytime they do they immediately reset back to default Cena and ruin it. The idea of there being a payoff to Cena losing big matches and struggling to topple Punk as the ace of the company is intriguing, but Cena bar the 3 weeks of the Lesnar feud and a couple of promos involving Punk in the buildup to NOC hasn't sold the desperation, struggle and hopeless year he's had by his standards. He's been as juvenile and comical as he was in 2011 and 2010 and therefore any direction they go whilst nice on paper feels stunted and shallow because they nor Cena have taken the time to really sell his loss of form to the extent where the payoff feels like a great achievement on his part.

It just stems from their inability to want their babyfaces to appear in peril/danger as well as their dire current ability to write a likeable babyface. The heels generally come off more sympathetic and intriguing because of how lowly they're booked and presented in comparison to the babyfaces and the likes of Cena & Sheamus are so painfully condescending, prickish and woefully hypocritical that their characters come off as genuinly unlikeable and people like Ziggler who come off more genuine and heartfelt are supposed to be booed simply because they're speaking out against popular wrestlers.

[Arnold Tricky]

I thought Freemantle said that their pricing would be “similar” to the previous licensee?

[ShowStopper '97]

Haha. just what WWE needs. Rock/Cena II, "Once in a Lifetime." Except when it comes John Cena getting his win back. God forbid he doesn't. He's a joke, and so is WWE management. Can't wait for NY/NJ to take a shit on that awful match.

[The Beast Incarnate]

OMFGZ TRIPS-CENA CORPORATE STABLE FTW ..... In all seriousness though, if Cena turned heel it would mean that the top two guys in the company are heel. Throw in the obvious Orton turn that's coming soon and you got 3 of your big four moneymakers heel, leaving sheamus and RYBACK as the two biggest faces in the company. Unless they did a double turn with Punk to make that feud fresh again for 2013 In which you could have the fresh main event feuds of face Punk against heel Cena and heel Orton, and the like. Only problem with that is that Punk is the best heel we've seen in quite some time, so turning HIM would be dumber than anything else the company could do at this point

[Phil_Mc_90]

The only way Rock/Cena could have worked is if Cena had actually given a shit over the last year about the loss. He should have come out on the RAW post Mania a broken man, BOOM enter Lesnar and the exact same build up only Lesnar wins at Extreme. Throughout the year he should have been beaten almost every time he entered the ring (at this point Cena rarely needs to win). Big Show should have beat him, Punk should have beat him clean, Ziggler did and should have beat him, Ryback should have beat him. Every one should have beat him leaving him now a totally broken guy, no jokes no looking smug just depressed. His first real win in 9months would have been the rumble. Next night he comes out challenges Rock saying it all started at Mania and this year he is putting it right. Whole build up would centre around can Cena beat Rock? Vince could get involved saying Rock was always a bigger star

Come Mania have Vince sat at ringside, even put him on commentary. Rock looks to have Cena beat and McMahon gets up and slides a chair into the ring and BAM Cena hits Rock with the chair and beats him down with at least 15 chair shots, he then picks him up on his shoulders mouths "FU" and hits the AA and pins him 1,2,3 to become champ. Vince then gets into the ring and they shake hands (I know its a bit too similar to Austin/Vince but you could do the storyline right this time with Cena not ending up as a bitch and being badass and corporate).

That's the only way I'd enjoy Rock/Cena II but we will get the predictable Cena wins and then they shake hands